Which rights are being taken away?
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Freedom of movement, self expression etc
Whose freedoms, and from what?
Can you provide a link, or an idea what you're talking about, any kind of context to deduce it.
Ok, I'll condense the entirety of American news from the last few months down to one or two links...
The right to education https://apnews.com/article/ies-musk-doge-education-cuts-4461d7bdbe9d55c5a411d8465999b011
Abortion laws being one that quickly comes mind.
During covid, protest were in favour of "my body, my choice" today's outlook seems to fall in the opposite direction.
You are looking for common principles and shared values, but MAGA was only looking to seize power for itself, or at least some rich people who are part of it.
Don't be shocked. This is basic manipulation and greed. It really is that simple. And the MaAGA crowd is disproportionately bigoted, so they get to hate who they hate more.
Ive posted more than once that when Trump was reelected and there was no attempt to storm the capital to block his confirmation I knew the USA was doomed.
If they are prepared to use violence and ignore the rules and you arent... you're fucked.
almost like everything a fascist says is a lie, and the things they accuse you of are just what they're getting hard about doing to you.
but that would be absurd.
The Freedom Convoy was as much about personal rights as the Civil War was about state's rights.
Well said, there's even a deeper layer: Ask the question "states' rights to do what?" (A: slavery). The same can be asked of the freedom convoy: "personal rights to do what?" (A: infect and kill others with a highly contagious and dangerous disease). Their exercise of personal rights in the way that some people did, should have been prosecuted as goddamn manslaughter. Same for covid denying government officials in many countries
They never really protested any rights, they were doing a performative demonstration showing them to be a part of the conservative crowd.
None of them ever gave a fuck about not spreading a deadly disease. Fuck them
It was also timed by the organizers to be around when covid restrictions were already going to be getting lifted, so they could claim a victory while collecting donations.
Each of those losers would be pro-Canada becoming a state. Fuck the ultra rw.
The Convoy being a rights movement was a skin-deep excuse for what it actually was. It did not take long at all before it turned into a general anti-vax fascist movement that saw significant funding and support coming up from the US.
Right. Don't forget how Republicans injected into schools that "my body my choice" that their kids shouldn't be forced to get vaccinated, and then overturned the abortion laws the next minute. Fuck I hate those people.
Right! My body my choice, but some how abortion laws don't follow this logic? Some serious mental gymnastics .
Related story, basically the hardest I laughed during covid.
Being a good Vancouverite, when those convoy fucks wanted to parade around and honk at hospitals, hundreds or thousands of us with bikes got in their way and kept them away from the hospitals.
Okay, so we're blocking an arterial and some convoy fuck is screaming at us about how, in his words, "we've got to protest smarter." He then finally realizes we have been politely letting non convoy cars through the lane next to him, so floors the accelerator and aims for that lane. But, he didn't shoulder check and slammed right into a car in that lane in front of a cop. So for the next however long we got to point and laugh while advising him about the merits of shoulder checking and how he needed to drive smarter.
Gotta love when an asshole causes a 100% fault car crash with no injuries.
Good job, glad everyone was safe
My dentist tried to bs me with this stupid convoy. He claimed that Trudeau picked up the phone ‘do you know who he called? Antifa’. I laughed in his face and found a new dentist.
“Why won’t he just hear the concerns of the people calling for his death!!”
Not to mention all the restrictions they were complaining about were put in place by the provinces. Ironically it was a Conservative premier in Ontario’s case.
Or it was the US. Truckers couldn't enter the US without vaccination, which is not the Canadian government's fault.
And the US who had vaccine rules for people coming in to their country. Yet the kkklownvoy protested Canadas govt over it.
I had a specialist doc a while ago who started out criticizing trump. But within five minutes was legitimately arguing that Charlie Manson would have been our greatest president and that it wasn't too crazy for someone to only want to live with people "just like us" (both white) and that "them" really were a problem.
Like, I'm used to conversations taking a hard right turn, frankly I look like what white supremacists wish they look like, so I get it often.
But I just did not see that coming after she started out shit talking trump
He's even losing the (relatively) wealthy and (absolutely) crazy racists now. That's his bread and butter...
The Freedom Convoy had Russian money funding its media campaign.
The problem for leftist organizing always really comes back to the fact that capitalists are the ones in power, and that they overwhelming prefer fascism to a social democracy. There's no billionaires funneling money into 50501's pockets to organize a mass turnout. It's the same reason the Tea Party was so successful while similar attempts on the left were not; their primary campaigns were well funded by the Koch bros.
Gates and Saunders could fund them. Maybe they're not as liberal as people think, eh.
Genuinely asking. What is this post about? I've seen 3-4 posts with the same vague description of what is actually going on. Sorry, I checked out of politics for yhe past 2 weeks and am genuinely asking, what.
It's probably about how all of the right wing people and their alt right movements over the last decade have been a complete load of bullshit spread by liars and hypocrites. Because they've been crying and crying about 'freedom' all this time and now that people's freedom is actually actively being violated, suddenly they don't have the same kind of energy. They've been preaching 'free speech' but they're silent when a protester gets arrested and threatened with deportation for speaking. Even the fucking conspiracy theory crowd took one look at Project 2025 and went "doesn't look like anything to me."
So it's probably just an observation that all of this madness over the last decade has been instigated by liars and supported and spread by liars. And that it's always actually just been about hate all along. A lot of us knew that already but now it's at the point where anyone denying it just looks willingly fucking stupid.
I was generally just thinking how the general public 3-5 years back were protesting about loss of rights (ie. stay at home "orders") imposed by their government, albeit the protest back then may have been a little flawed and morphed into a Anti-vaccine movement.
Now, 5 years later people are seemingly loosing their rights for real (within the USA) and its almost as if no one notices. ie. Judges being threatened, public services bring dismantled, basic foods increasing in price.
I know its not a perfect 1:1 correlation. The lockdowns effected everyone at the same time in roughly the same way no matter social status. The current situation is more along the lines of "it does not effect me".
Ah! Thank you both for you replies! I see what you are talking about now.
The Convites are a special breed of abject morons who couldn't recognize authoritarianism if it hit them in the face. They were manipulated by Russia to do their dumbass protest, enabled by the cops (OPP and OPS were fucking worst than useless) and fueled by MAGA conspiracies.
Freedom convoy grew into something much bigger than Truckers protesting about vaccine mandates to cross the border. They had a point that they work in very isolated conditions, but covid freaks were opportunistic, and US/right wing funding to make it blow up was plenty.
And they drove a bunch of cool trucks and everyone was happy to see them. /s
I didn't find the video of the guy yelling at them to fuck off and go away from his balcony, but if anyone has a link, it was pretty good.
I for one ascribe the blame to at least 40 years of pseudoscience -- neoclassical economic theory [1] -- pushed by neoliberal economists. These same neoliberal economists are often backed by the rich (fuck you "Chicago School of Economics" [2]) . For decades they have pushed this narrative of "government bad" and "private sector" good. Taxing the rich only means you punish the people you want to help (middle and lower socioeconomic classes). This pseudoscience gave birth to the godawful economic policy of "trickle down economics".
Decades of:
- defunding public services (by both parties, by the way) to make way for tax cuts for the wealthy
- middle class wage stagnation (ie, take for example the minimum wage and sub-minimum wage for tipped employees)
- decimation of union participation and subsequently power to labor
- cheap money backed by the faith of the US govt and given to the ultra wealthy as a means of extracting wealth from the people -- see private equity
Want to know why many people are easily manipulated? They can't afford the same lifestyle as their parents. Drowning in debt to greedy capitalist pigs. Years of this cycle and once the algorithms detect this, you can be easily turned into cannon fodder for the ultra wealthy.
"hey bro, your life is shit because immigrants took yer job!! Govt trying to inject microchips into you! Join the FrEEdOm CoNvOy!"
Get us into fighting a culture war against each other, when we should be banding together and fighting a class war.
Fuck the billionaire class.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neoclassical_economics [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_school_of_economics
They were useful idiots
*three years ago. I live downtown Ottawa and remember the convoy distinctly (unfortunately) but you made me feel like time was passing even quicker than it already is lol
It formed because of a group of people manipulated into a protest for "our rights".
Neither the people participating or the ones driving the propaganda ever gave two shits about anyone else's rights.
They'd support a law requiring everyone be a fan of their favorite sports all team, because it doesn't negatively effect them and since it aligns with their established beliefs it's the "right" decision for everyone else anyways.
This is how "for the greater good" can do great evil and why writing off people who commit monsterous acts as monsters is fucking stupid.
We need to understand why they do this shit so we can explain to them why they shouldn't.
What fucked us over is the only other option we're neoliberals. They can't talk about fixing real problems because they're paid to ignore those very problems. So instead they try to make Dem voters think of it like sportsball too.
The problem is at best Dem voters aren't maniac fans like Republicans. We're the home team fans who hate our own team and wish anyone else was calling the shots. It's like we were cursed to be born in Cleveland and LeBron James already moved away
You have no idea how much I want to have this conversation.
I was told our rights to travel or go outside won’t return.
I was told that I would be immune compromised for taking an experimental vaccine.
Can we now get everyone to admit some people were very wrong during COVID?
Is there a way to hide all comments from folks who werent in Ottawa at the time?
Republicans actually think they are being set free with the removal of government employees.
Yes. Clinton also gutted government departments.... Over the span of seven years. Trump is doing that within less than a month and is doing so much more damage. It's like watching someone with a gambling addiction budget their monthly income.
People ARE protesting though. And they are protesting all over the world. I think trump is the first, most hated dictator in the world right after Hitler.
Because those groups were right wing and funded by political agitators, multiplied by manipulated media. The people on the ground did believe in the issues, but it was a concerted effort of political theater as a show of force.
Everyone else is now debilitated by wage theft that they can only care about the economy. When the market crashes harder and full recession hits, that’s when people will take to the streets because they’ll have lost jobs and freedoms. That’s when the martial law will start.
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