TBF they got their Don Mitchell equivalent.. its the rest of the roster that is the problem
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I wouldn’t even say the roster is bad. It’s just the fit of RJ and Randle and how good they can be.
They have wing defense and shooting with Grimes, Hart, Divincenzo
Guard defense and scoring with Quickley and again DiVincenzo
Mitch is a great rim protector. Hartenstein is a decent rim protector and good playmaker
I think if RJ was even close to being “that guy” they’d be a contender. But he’s not that guy on either end of the floor
So far this season RJ has been the Knicks best player
everytime the Knicks miss out on a player everyone expects them to get, they leak out they didn’t want him anyway
said the same thing with KD. they didn’t view him as a Max contract player, and they only leaked that out once he didn’t accept their max contract offer
how does a player not accept a contract that was not offered
Phrase it this way. You want a new car but you already have a crappy Chevy. In order for you to upgrade your car you have to pay the equivalent of a brand new Benz for a Dodge Charger. Are you going to buy that new Dodge charger or would you rather sit on your Chevy and wait to see if you can pay Mercedes prices for a Mercedes?
They did want him just not for that package, and it was very smart of them to not. He doesn’t raise their ceiling with the way their roster is constructed and I’m glad they passed. They were better than the Cavs last year also
They didn’t want to pay him to miss a season with Achilles surgery, a fair request. KD is amazing but what would he have done with RJ Barrett and Randle?
Just like Trae
He isn't....
I’m so happy we got Brunson instead
Facts, and give a fuck what Scott Perry thinks. Dude drafted Ntlikina and Knox 🤧
Might need to lay off Perry. Mills was in the big chair
you never know, we still might get mitchell eventually , when he goes into FA
That’s because he isn’t, he’s either giving you 40 points with no defense or 14 points with no defense. Those are the only two options when it comes to this dude.
Minnesota dropped the mother lode for Gobert who is most certainly not franchise carrying player. Especially at his career arc. I don't care much for Knicks but I'm glad they didn't cave and held out for better situation. Well see what happens though because this current roster is not going to get much further. They should only blow all the picks on someone they legitimately think will be the title piece.
They’re not wrong but they’re being revisionists because they definitely saw him that way earlier.
He’s a very good 1B in my opinion, he’s needs a 1A.
Knicks were wise not to trade for Mitchell or KAT. Mitchell and Brunson in the backcourt would be utterly flammable. KAT would be KAT only paid $60M/year soon, so no thanks. You don't win a ring with KAT ever. They were wise to keep their trade assets for Embiid or any player above the Mitchell level (or even at the Mitchell level, just better at Defence and at a different position). I wish Mitchell would win more in the playoffs and drive winning more than he actually does
Bruh y'all are NEVER getting Embid, why is everyone trying to push this bullshit, Embid not going anywhere, especially to New York
I like Donovan, he’s one of the best shooters in the league and athletic enough to score in any way you can think of. That said, I don’t believe the Cavs are a championship contender unless Mobley develops into a player who is definitively better than him
Yeah. Unfortunately, the game I saw last night was Chet welcoming Mobley to the league...
14 points, 15 boards and two blocks is a really solid game. Just overshadowed by the longboi getting 7 blocks, that’s video game numbers.
Watching it told a completely different story. After Chets first block on Mobley, he was hesitant for the rest of the half. Mobley came back with more confidence for the 2nd half and got Chet a couple of times (with a block and a dunk), but overall, Chet looked very comfortable with Mobley guarding him and punked him so many times offensively and defensively.
To me, Mobley looked like the unsure rookie with a lot of talent and promise, while Chet looked like the 3rd year up and coming star.
Edit: Mobley did look dominant whenever Chet was out of the game. The Thunder often had JDub on him and Mobley took advantage as he should.
To be fair Mobley was playing out of position and is at his best as a help defender. Don't get me wrong Chet looked like the better player at least for that game and deserves praise. Just saying it's not really that shocking that a player with Chets size and skill set looked comfortable when being guarded by someone like Mobley.
Are they wrong tho
He's not, he's a chucker selfish player
Damn for a moment I was about to flip that the West Cavs stabbed us in the back but then I saw the location and it made much more sense lol
No shit
W view
good enough to get you to the playoffs but I hate his game come playoff time
Spida is in that Devin Booker category, one of the best #2s possible on a championship team
Mitchell is a scorer. That’s what you’re getting. Defensive liability, not a playmaker. He can be a great piece but definitely not a cornerstone.
Correct.
Knicks want to drive his value down so that when they sign him, the money they saved looks better.
Galaxy brain.
Damn y’all really don’t watch the Cavs huh?
He's clearly not. Source? My eyeballs.
Mitchell just dropped 43 on the Thunder without a starting PG.
This isn't the first time he has had games like this without our starting PG. He can step up to the plate and deliver, but with JB’s coaching scheme. We aren't exactly getting the best of the best out of him.
If we have a better rotation and coaching scheme, I say that you could probably see a lot more out of Mitchell.
I mean hes not , hes good but hes not..top 10-15 player level of great and Jazz wanted big package that would leave him without help kinda
Clickbaity title which is causing clickbaity debate.
There are maybe 5 guys in the league right now that you would trade anything for.
Just because you aren’t one of those 5 guys doesn’t mean you can’t be a phenomenal player which Mitchell is.
The Knicks wanted Mitchell, but the price was just too high for us and had too much risk and potential future downside. If Knicks made the trade and saw that their ceiling was first or second round of the playoffs they would’ve been left with no trade pieces or draft picks and no clear path to improve. Which is exactly the situation the Melo trade left us in which set us back for years.
Trade absolutely made sense for the Cavs, and made sense for the Knicks to not do it.
Mitchell didnt view Knicks as championship-winning franchise
The Knicks are right. Mitchell is overrated. Jalen Brunson is better than him. I'll die on this hill.
For the money sure, but overall no.
I don’t know why any team would.
And they were right it seems
Because he’s not…Shaq was right
He isn't. Unless it's a small market team from the midwest
Probably right.
Hes not
He definitely isn't. He's similar to J Murray and J Brown where he can be an insane number 2 but isn't quite good enough to be a fist option every game in a playoff run.
They’re right