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[–] YiMyonSin@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

This guy was a COTY candidate two years ago. Had a few Packers fans claim he deserved it over Vrabel by equating their few injuries to us forced into dressing out everyone on the roster and then some. Life comes at you fast

[–] ScooterLeShooter@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Dudes a fraud, carried by Rodgers, he's just Adam Gase without the Coked up press conference.

[–] TheRosesThornsOf15@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Gutekunst’s seat should be hot too.

[–] penis_showing_game@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Absolutely. But the attached article links to a Bleacher Report poll and some dude complaining about the Packers poor performance as the “source” for being on the hot seat.

[–] WentworthMillersBO@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Hey, it’s not like he had a first ballot HOF MVP on his roster signed to a long term deal when he made that Jordan Love pick or anything

[–] Stompthefeet@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

A Packers fan told me last week I was being "revisionist" and "a clown" because "hindsight is 20/20" and there was no way to know how Aaron's career would go at the time of the pick.

[–] jiiiim8@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

The honest ones will tell you he didn't look like his gods laying self in 2019, but will also tell you he was still very good while learning a new system and showed no signs of dropping off a cliff.

The fo fans will tell you picking Love was the sole reason he got those two mvps.

I will tell you he was finally fully healthy.

[–] Imawildedible@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I will start by saying that I wasn’t happy picking Love where they did with so many players available that would have immediately added to a Super Bowl contender.

But I can kind of see some logic when you look at what was happening in the world. Rodgers had just shown a possible bit of decline. Covid was threatening both NFL and NCAA seasons. If the following NCAA season was shut down AND Rodgers was in an actual decline due to age, the Packers would have come into a season without the chance to draft a potential starter at QB because there wouldn’t have been another year of growth for underclassman. IF that happened they would have had to either draft a guy that was passed over in the entire previous draft or who missed a year of development or decide to wait for a different QB while drafting other players to build the roster. The covid years were tumultuous. Gute hedged his bets against covid and lost on that draft. I still don’t like the pick. But with the context that specific pic does make a bit of sense.

[–] Nickmurray21@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Nah as a Packers fan they lost in the nfc championship year before and it was clear we needed another weapon at wr other than adams. There were so many talented relievers in that class and they draft a one. I was immediately disappointed with that draft. Immediately.

[–] thegroovemonkey@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

They had just won 13 games and drafted a QB2, RB3, and FB/TE hybrid in the first 3 rounds. It was awful the day it happened.

Then you have the people who thought we should have traded him last year coming off of 13 wins and an MVP. Missing the playoffs was still better than quitting on a championship window.

[–] namdekan@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

That pick continues to baffle me, they made it seem like at that point Rodgers was constantly wavering on retiring but it always seemed like the opposite before then, he has talked about going until he was in his 40s. I was hoping they were going to select Tee Higgins with that pick

[–] Excellent-Car-6543@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Well who's choice was it to draft Jordan Love?

[–] Romofan88@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

LaFleur without Rodgers is Seifert on the Panthers.

[–] teddyjj399@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

We’ll gladly take him back if he’s so shit

[–] agk927@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Doubtful. If the team is still bad in 2025 then yes he will get fired

[–] eyeguy21@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Good, he was a bad coach when he had rodgers. And now that rodgers is gone, he’s just being exposed.

Poor game plans.

[–] d9849468@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Eh he called some great games with Rodgers adams a and jones all healthy. Yes those dudes are elite talents but Lafleur did some great things for them. Jones career was transformed under him.

[–] Lorjack@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

And their GM too while they're at it

[–] Hammerzeit88@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Seems a little reactionary. It's his first year without a hall of famer

[–] CaliforniaHurricane_@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I don’t understand why he’d be in the hot seat. Wouldn’t they want to give him a shot with another QB that’s more talented than Jordan Love

[–] DJMAYFIELD@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Oh no! Can we have him back then please?

[–] Maverick916@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He's learning the same thing Belichick and Payton did: it ain't easy without a hall of famer is it?

[–] lclear84@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I know in the end all that matters is the W or the L but 2-4 with 3 losses by a combined 7 points is not that bad. Especially with a roster with like 30/53 player or something being rookies or second year guys right?

[–] Puntfootballs@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I still think he’s a pretty damn good coach. I think he’s got a serious GM problem, and a potential QB problem in the making.

[–] DamnImAwesome@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I’d be ecstatic is the saints fired Dennis Allen and picked up LaFleur

[–] humpyrton@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Carr could definitely benefit from a more just throw on time offense vs whatever yall running now.

[–] Bronco9366@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Losing to the broncos will do that to a guy.

[–] Majestic_Reindeer439@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He's had his faults, but Love isn't doing him any favors. Tough spot to be in, really. Keep a lame duck HC when we'll get a new GM in two years or pull the trigger?

[–] Chirpy69@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

He would be the scapegoat sadly. It isn’t inherently bad to draft a guys replacement; it is bad to not have a plan B though which seemingly was “hopefully fingers crossed Rodgers just decides to retire and we can prove our pick was right”. Equally as stupid was burning the second rounder on AJ Dillon, whom I actually do like but wasn’t even remotely a need for GB at the time

[–] Jahavan@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

That seems very rash. I mean they went over 13 wins three years in a row? Sure it’s not like they have been good this year but the team is super young.

[–] ReindeerMean6253@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

What losing to the Denver Broncos can do to you.

[–] kingpin2496@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

I won’t forget this guy kicking a field goal in the championship game against the Bucs with 2 minutes left down 8. Packers never got the ball back.

[–] TheApologist_@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Coming from a team that basically did this to great success… I have just never understood the baby with the bath water mindset with this shit.

So Love ain’t the guy? Why does that mean LaFleur has to go? If there were other reasons, it would be the first I’ve heard of any criticism levied at him specifically for their current situation.

[–] griffraff0701@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

“Suck on that, la-loser”

[–] lego_mannequin@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

We'll take him.

[–] fore_skin_walker@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

Gutey, Bichacia, MLF joe Barry, everyone should be on hot seat.

[–] grasswhistle28@alien.top 1 points 2 years ago

LaFleur absolutely has a leash longer than one bad transition season with the youngest team in the league with a qb he didn’t draft.

This is just clown posting disguised as journalism