TheApologist_

Everybody with a brain "Wouldn't tied or trailing be better because that's when your QB needs to show up and not when you're running up the score on already beaten teams?"

u/UglyDuckAI "NoooOooooOoooo because then my cherry picked stats don't help my poooooOoooInt"

Everybody with a brain "Cause if you go by tied or trailing it's:
Hurts - *152/*214, 1710 pYd, 267 rYd, 22-1 TTD-INT (14p, 8r)
Purdy - *94/*214, 1222 pYd, 81rYd, 9-5 TTD-INT (8p, 1r)

u/UglyDuckAI "NoooOooooOoooo"

MLB coach Charlie Manuel is always the example I think of.

Talented, superstar players aren’t dumb, but ultimately they need what works for them, and they master it… less talented players need to grind, to find any and every advantage they can get. (They also need people skills, cause locker room presence is more important in those mid/replaceable players)

So when it comes to teaching various body types or mindsets. One of those coaches is MUCH more prepared to teach what they themselves aren’t.

That’s my head canon at least.

People are saying TB12. But how much of it was him?

Well, assuming a full, healthy season, Brady is 1/32 of all QB time. Him retiring at 43(?) and getting replaced by a 23(~) year old is 20 years, or an average age drop in QB’s by 20/32 years, or .625 years.

That’s a little over half a gridline… so he was by no means the only influence, or even the majority of the influence in the stat, but he was damn sure a HUGE one.

People put it on Brady, but forget the teams supporting cast was completely deteriorating when Brady left… a large reason Brady left to begin with.

OMG!! You replace TB12 with Mac Jones, with a vastly inferior supporting cast, and in OC/DC turnover hell cause they keep getting better offers elsewhere, oh and your a defensive minded HC in a super Offense league… oh and the rest your division (finally) doesn’t suck ass… name me 1 coach that wouldn’t need to enter a rebuild.

People who unironically think Brady made Bill need to go revisit that first SB run.

Brady becoming elite years later masks that from being one of the worst QB’s to ever win a ring.

Too early… but let’s be honest how often is the first overall pick the best QB in the draft?

Manning and Lawrence are the only clear cuts that come to mind… the rest are either debatably the best but inconclusive (Burrow vs Herbert/Tua/Hurts or Newton vs Dalton) or were bad but won by default.

QB success is way more about supporting cast, scheme fit, and player/coach cohesion. All things that are indicative to the organization, not player.

Not to say HOU is dripping with supporting cast… but still better then CAR

As of this moment… it’s Lamar with Hurts a close 2nd… and unless they have the balls to go outside QB those are the only two that should be in the discussion.

Yawn. Call me when the Pat Surtain market begins heating up again.

Coming from a team that basically did this to great success… I have just never understood the baby with the bath water mindset with this shit.

So Love ain’t the guy? Why does that mean LaFleur has to go? If there were other reasons, it would be the first I’ve heard of any criticism levied at him specifically for their current situation.