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I'm wondering if I should just delete lemmy to stay under the radar. πŸ€” (I'm a US Citizen currently residing in the US, and moving out of the country is not really an option)

I feel so conflicted on this. On one hand, this is kinda like giving in to authoritarianism, but on the other hand, dissenting is kinda dangerous. πŸ˜“

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very unlikely.

If they do it'll end up being like less than 5% to make an example out of them.

if that does happen start using and supporting services like i2p and monero.

[–] bradorsomething@ttrpg.network 2 points 5 minutes ago

Same reason the people on 9/11 stayed in their seats - they thought they’d be fine if they waited it out.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Extremely unlikely and possibly physically impossible

[–] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 hours ago

AI is a big help here. Including at current tech level. But why bother the expense or judicially-complaining process of arresting them, if you can arrange their next Amazon electronics order to explode?

[–] booganiganie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Many people commenting of the difficulties in prosecuting people for anti Trump settlements. More likely they will "release" this information for the wider public(maga linch mob)

[–] eronth@lemmy.world 16 points 4 hours ago

All? Unlikely. But some? A lot harder to say. You're asking for an opinion-based prediction at this point. I think they'll probably eventually try to get the most outspoken critics, but I also think that's a good time to not go silent. You get organized.

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 23 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Listen at some point its time to realize you dont give a fuck about their threats, accept death as a possibility, and keep to your principles.

Like that man who stood in front of the tank during Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.

Im pretty sure were headed into such an event locally.

[–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

I think it's not feasible to search for anti -trump content and then track down the person, but is much more likely that once they have you they will check your phone to see if you are a dissenter. So any interaction with federal or local authorities will be risky from now on. I just saw a headline of a French scientist being denied entry after immigration searched her phone and found anti Trump messages. If anyone has advice on how to quickly wipe or lockdown a phone, PC, etc. please share. OpSec

[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

GrqpheneOS has a second pin on your lock screen which, when keyed in, immediately makes the storage contents permanently inaccessible, deletes all Esims, and powers the device off. Graphene will remain installed.

There are also "panic button" apps out there that do similar stuff.

Then there's the good ole, put it in the microwave, or taking a nail-gun to it

[–] MojoMcJojo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Thank you. Instant lock and wipe before handing it over to your friendly neighborhood gestapo holding you gun point is just what we need.

[–] Monkeyhog@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

The worst they can do is kill you. Your gonna die eventually anyway, might as well do it for a good cause.

[–] pineapplelover@lemm.ee 1 points 4 hours ago

This is why I use a vpn. But he'd have to prosecute half the people or scare half the people. I hope we'll fight back if that ever happens

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 20 points 9 hours ago

Extremely unlikely. Not for another 20 years or so, worst case scenario, and by then they probably won't care about now.

First off, there's way too many people who criticize the government to arrest everyone, secondly it's completely unnecessary. Complaining about the government doesn't really do anything other than allowing people to vent their frustrations and feel more content. It's the same way Trump obviously isn't going to "end elections forever" like people say, virtually every country in the world has elections, regardless of how actually democratic they are, because they're a nice little ritual that lets you feel free and in control. It would be like saying that Trump is going to knock down the Statue of Liberty - he doesn't have to.

Now, there are reasons to establish more secure lines of communication, like if you're involved in actual organizing or if you're either helping people do illegal things or planning to help people do things that could potentially become illegal - for example, shipping Plan B or trans hormones to people in red states. Laws in some red states about "pushing transgenderism on minors" could theoretically be interpreted so broadly that if you post information or supportive messages on a public forum and a minor in a red state happens to see it, they could try to come after you for it - but that would probably be found unconstitutional.

Using secure lines of communication for routine, everyday stuff helps keep those lines secure by generating more chaff they'd have to sort through, as well as familiarizing yourself with it and getting more people on board. However, you shouldn't scatter to the wind preemptively and self-censor, beyond just not fed-posting.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 29 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

It's more about setting up a system that rewards your neighbour for snitching on you. If that system is practical online, only time will tell. It worked well irl for other fascists.

Please watch this video about dictatorships and what to look out for.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 4 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

It worked well irl for other fascists.

It is also a hall market every single communist regime.

It is a fun system but as soviets found out is that it get abused for personal reasons and sending everyone who gets reported to Siberia was just a bad economic amf social policy.

The way modidng on socials works, people would be more than happy to have ICE harass people whose opinions they don't like Because their opinions are the only correct ones to have.

[–] boonhet@lemm.ee 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

The way modidng on socials works, people would be more than happy to have ICE harass people whose opinions they don’t like

People are literally happy to SWAT other games. You can't trust anyone with the power to bring shit down on other people.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 0 points 4 hours ago

Great point lol

Plebs are savages to each other and it is never a concern for the regime

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 1 points 8 hours ago

I mean, DOGE already downloaded all your personal info. It's easy to scrape socials and everything from there. What I meant is the ability to v& people en masse from online comments is yet unproven. I have faith that Elmo will find the right 19yo kids for the job though.

[–] shaggyb@lemmy.world 69 points 15 hours ago (3 children)

I have the RIGHT to freedom of speech and expression and I will not waive it for Trump or anyone else. Without it, there is no United States.

Fuck Donald Trump. Fuck Elon Musk. Fuck the Republicans. Fuck the oligarchy. Fuck authoritarianism. Fuck this fear, and fuck advance compliance.

I serve no fucking king.

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[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 11 points 11 hours ago (10 children)

Less likely if we are gun owners

[–] SomeAmateur@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Gun rights are for everyone. Unironically everyone capable of responsibly owning a gun should. But you won't get magically good with one if you never train.

If you have a friend who already has guns ask to join them on the range to learn the basics. If not find a class to learn safe gun handling, then go to the range to practice and build skill. Guns are a serious and powerful tool, but like most serious and powerful tools when you use them safely you have a ton of fun too!

From there if you really want to be as effective as you can learning how to move and communicate well is the next step. And that can be practiced via video games, airsoft, hiking etc.

[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

Only if people collectiely excercise that right by forming a militia, otherwise they'll just raid your houses individually one by one and take your guns.

Ironically, its less likely for people who aren't right-wing to have guns. Blue states, and especially Blue cities make it so difficult for people to get a gun due to all the permits you have to obtain from the police department, who would just find bs reasons to deny your permit because you know, pigs be pigs.

[–] VanillaFrosty@lemmy.world 2 points 5 hours ago

Lots of states allow private sales with no background checks required. People should see if they live in/near one.

If so hop on mewe, or some other social site, grab some cash and get you one! Gun shows are awesome for this too.

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[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 29 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t see them coming for all of us. It’s just not practical to arrest everyone who complains.

It all comes down to other characteristics:

  • are you someone influential or high profile they can make an example of, to promote fear?
  • do you have any connection to another country, no matter how tenuous, where they can use this as an excuse to deport?
  • are you part of another demographic bias they want to persecute, such as lgbt, where they can use this as an excuse to legally persecute?
[–] IDKWhatUsernametoPutHereLolol@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 14 hours ago (2 children)

are you someone influential or high profile they can make an example of, to promote fear?

I'm just a nobody. No wikipedia pages or anything like that.

do you have any connection to another country, no matter how tenuous, where they can use this as an excuse to deport?

I was born in PRC. The US government could frame me as a "CCP Spy", but like dude, I'm the most anti-CCP ethnic Chinese person in the US. I'm honesely afraid to getting deported then I'll have to explain to the CCP about all those Anti-CCP stuff I said. (I'm end up in prison).

Like it doesn't even make sense for me to be a "CCP Spy", they literally tried arrest my mother and tried to terminate me (I was the second child that my mother had during the One Child Policy). Why would I ever help a party that almost prevented my existence?

are you part of another demographic bias they want to persecute, such as lgbt, where they can use this as an excuse to legally persecute?

I'm not really LGBT, but I really have no desire to seek a relationship so I think I'm just asexual/aromantic which the Magats would probably consider a "sexual deviant" or whatever bs deogratory label they wanna make, but like I could lie and say I'm straight.

I'm Chinese American, so, judging by the "China virus" racist rhetoric, orange cheeto doesn't like people like me. πŸ‘€

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[–] hungryphrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Well, I think that it would be if not impossible, then extremely difficult to do that, as the amount of people they'd have to catch would be gigantic.

But I think it's best to be prepared for a lot of social media bans and restrictions. (Think China or Saudi Arabia)

And if you happen to partake in protests, do NOT confess to it online. This is especially important if you're doing anything illegal, but looking at what the situation is over there, I'd say that it applies to peaceful protesting as well. Take care.

[–] BagOfHeavyStones@lemm.ee 16 points 13 hours ago

I'm not going to travel to the US just in case they triangulate my ID. Haven't said anything terribly bad about USA but still, why risk it.

[–] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 154 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

In the long run, shutting up won’t save you from fascism. Every inch you give is a foot they take, and they will take and take and take if you let them.

If you’ve never wondered whether people living under dictatorships regret not exercising their rights more when they still had them, now’s the time to start pondering.

[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 32 points 16 hours ago

People in Germany protested in front of a Gestapo building in 1943. Post your posts.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosenstrasse_protest

[–] sondr3@lemm.ee 36 points 17 hours ago

The fact that you are even worried about this says so much.

Love, A european

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 101 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (6 children)

Dissenting is the only thing that will actually do anything to make things better.

Rolling over and stopping is giving up before the fight has even started.

Further, pretty sure the entire contents of the internet have been sucked down into that NSA Utah Datacenter since it opened in May 2014.

Not to mention the corporate surveillance systems of Meta, Reddit, Twitter, and so on. If you ever had an account, just because you deleted it doesn't mean the data got deleted. Even Reddit has been seen restoring comments after they were changed and deleted. Facebook has been known to have "shadow profiles" on people for like fifteen years now.

Also Room 641A implies that the phone companies will happily divulge the history of your text messages to the administration as well. There is and hasn't been privacy in a long time in any real way in the USA and they're definitely gonna leverage that.

If Trump is ignoring the law, he'll ignore any laws that prevent the government from using that data against American citizens. I think it's healthier to accept it than to try to pretend all that data isn't already out there for the taking.

If you've ever been critical of Trump or Republicans in the last 11 years, just get used to the idea that it's probably a foregone conclusion and get prepared to be involved.

I don't mean buy a gun. I mean get involved in community gardens, community support networks and other types of Mutual Aid. We'll need to support one another and hiding from what is happening and hiding our opinions because we're scared isn't going to help.

Do you have respect for the journalism outfits that have already turned tail and given up on seriously criticizing Trump? Do you have respect for every judge who pussed out on holding Trump accountable before the election? Because I doubt you do. Well, history will look at you the same way, if anyone even remembers your name.

Nobody remembers Germans in 1941 as anything but Nazis. The only ones who are remembered for not being Nazis took risks and didn't lay down and die. It's different now, the surveillance network is massive, there's no hiding from it, so it's pointless to hide from it instead of embrace it and prepare.

[–] ComicalMayhem@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

know how to find/organize such communities for my area?

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[–] tudor@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

There is so much content going online, and so much traffic, plus heightened security measures, that make it very hard to identify dissidents on a large scale, at least with the tech we have, without using searches and seizure of one’s devices or other methods unrelated to the Internet itself.

In other words, very hard to impossible.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (2 children)

it's pretty stupid and delusional to think you're going to jail for posting things on social media. in countries where this actually happens (mine for example) you need to be stirring up some viral controversy which directly effects an interest of the government. it wouldn't be useful to put every rambling stepdad in jail and they wouldn't have the resources to do it anyway

[–] Scott_of_the_Arctic@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago

People are getting turned away at the border for having tweets critical to Donald trump (terrorism for some reason). It's only a matter of time before they start making lists of people inside the states as well.

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[–] Solemarc@lemmy.world 14 points 15 hours ago

I hate to be all doom and gloom but if the government decided tomorrow that disagreeing with trump was a crime then it's probably already too late for you.

The amount of information about people online is pretty shocking and no amount of cleaning up after yourself could save you at this point.

On the other hand, it probably won't devolve that fast so you're probably ok?

[–] vvilld@lemmy.world 10 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Every single person who disagrees with the administration on the internet? Incredibly unlikely. That'd be literally 10s of millions of people, if not over 100 million. The US prison system currently has a capacity of ~2 million. It's estimated that globally there are ~11.5 million people in prisons. So you're talking about locking up several times more people than are currently locked up. It's just not possible.

The scale of what you're suggesting is just unimaginable. How much manpower would be needed to lock up tens of millions of people? Nearly the entire non-incarcerated population of the US would need to be employed in building and staffing prisons and doing the police work to track down and arrest people.

And what would that do to the US (and global) economy to remove tens of millions of people from the workforce and force the rest of the population into servicing those prisons?

Even in the strictest countries with the most draconian censorship, they don't lock up people who are just disagreeing with the dictator/administration. They lock up people who make a name for themselves and get recognition/go viral. If you have an account that gets a HUGE following and you don't just disagree, but attack and criticize, then you might end up with some problems.

To avoid this, just don't let yourself get a big following with an account that's super critical. If you notice you start to get a following, just delete that account and start a new one.

[–] 60d@lemmy.ca 3 points 10 hours ago (3 children)
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