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We all have a favourite way of taking pictures, favourite subjects and environments that make us love photography. But still there's a lot of us who have to make a living out of this, and have to find the best way to monetize our skills.

Having said that - what would you consider (or is objectively) the most profitable niche in photography?

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[–] jarabara@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

High end commercial photography can still be very lucrative, especially if you’re shooting for large international clients. My day rate is $5k a day not including licensing fees but I’m nowhere near the top. There are bigger photographers who pull $250k a year easily. Of course it’s extremely competitive, all about connections and those jobs are getting fewer and fewer these days buts it’s very possible. I once worked as a 3rd assistant on a campaign shoot for a international beverage brand. The photographer cleared $120k for 3 days of work and delivered at most 20 images.

[–] gotthelowdown@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the insights and numbers about high end commercial photography. Really cool stuff. How do people break into that? Being an assistant? Digital technician?

[–] infrqngible@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Why are those jobs getting fewer and fewer?

[–] KittenStapler@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I have a friend who writes romance novels (yes, THAT kind of romance novel) and she's told me how ridiculous the prices for her cover photos are. According to her, the lack of proper models is what actually drives the price up so much. So, if you know any juicy dudes with lots of tattoos, you might wanna ask them if they wanna make some easy money together.

[–] BerserkPlatypus@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

How do romance novelists find the people do do their cover photos?

[–] Neopacificus@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hey from your comments I am assuming you are also a novelist or a person who has connections with novelists. Can you please ask them how they started their journey in becoming a novelist and what are good practices for aspirational novelists?

[–] KittenStapler@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I'm not entirely sure honestly. I think they told me that they originally wrote mystery or horror or something, but then they had a friend tell them how much money they made writing porn. So, they wrote a porn novel and it happened to sell very well, so they wrote more porn, and sold even more books, and the rest is history.

It's kinda the same deal as any art. Just gotta find a niche that you can turn into profit.

[–] someonesgranpa@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I resemble this statement and need money. Lol

[–] Agent00funk@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Industrial photography.

Once I got looped into that, it basically became my entire portfolio.

I've been published in local, regional, national, and international publications, but only for my industrial photography. Companies want pretty pictures for their websites and newsletters and they have no idea what something like that costs and will gladly overpay. Local governments, chambers of commerce, economic development organization, etc want pictures for their newsletters and press releases of economic growth. Newspapers and magazines want pictures for their articles, especially now that the economy is such a frequent topic of discussion.

I have yet to meet a fellow industrial photographer, but these industries talk among themselves and when one of them asks "who did the picture for your website?" My phone starts ringing.

It can be challenging; the speed, actions, and lighting will have you constantly adjusting your settings and lenses. It helps to know how industry functions, so you can talk to the people on the production floor, as well as management that's guiding you around. From an artistic perspective, it can also be difficult to get a picture to tell a story because there are these massive machines and people buzzing between them to attend them. One of my recent favorite shots was of a worker next to a massive drill press, he had his tool box open and inside were pictures of his family. I framed the shot to show him doing his work as well as capturing the pictures inside his tool box. I love those kind of shots, those that reveal the humanity among these giant machines. It got published in a local magazine with 22,000 subscribers. The magazine went and interviewed the worker. The industry was happy to be spotlighted, the worker was happy to be recognized, the magazine was happy to have content, and I was happy with my paycheck.

It's a difficult niche to break in to. You've got to build relationships and trust. I worked with my local economic development office. Contacted the director, showed him my portfolio (which at the time didn't include industrial photography), and told him "if any of the industries you deal with needs photography, I'd be happy to help." At first, he paid for my photography, sort of as a service they were providing for local industries. It wasn't great pay, but it wasn't bad either. But, it was good work, so he'd call me again and again. Eventually the industries just contacted me directly after they'd seen my work for other local industries. It just took of from there.

Photography isn't my main job, I've always subscribed to the notion that people need three hobbies; one for health, one for wealth, and one for relaxation. Photography is my wealth hobby, and since the demand for industrial photography is fairly low (like once a month, at best). It isn't something I could do full time, but it has paid for all of my gear plus extra, so I'll continue to do it, because it's worth taking a day off from my regular job to do.

[–] gotthelowdown@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Thanks for the great informative comment on industrial photography. That’s a niche I didn’t know about.

[–] bulk_logic@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I've been published in local, regional, national, and international publications, but only for my industrial photography. Companies want pretty pictures for their websites and newsletters and they have no idea what something like that costs and will gladly overpay.

They're definitely not overpaying. The more money involved, the higher the price of advertisement tends to get. These industrial businesses are moving hundreds of thousands if not millions of dollars a month.

Chances are you're actually underselling yourself.

[–] Agent00funk@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The manufacturing sector has tons of businesses with just one location and 50 employees. Most of my clients have been in that category. I've also worked with multinational corporations, who you definitely can charge a lot more, but the bread and butter is family owned operations who don't have a marketing or PR department and have no clue who to call when they want pictures, so they usually call the local chamber of commerce or economic development office for advice. That's why its important to build relationships with those groups, you want them to refer you to those industries.

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[–] knuF@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What is industrial Photography? Like shooting energy facilities, utilities, etc?

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[–] I_Mean_Not_Really@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

o hell yea, i'd love to get into industrial shooting.

[–] johnnyt918@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Commercial photography. When i'm on the client side doing brand shoots, the quotes i'm getting for 1-2 day shoots are in the 35-50k range.

[–] title_song@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

How does one get into doing commercial photography?

[–] johnnyt918@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Build a portfolio of product shots and campaign photos. Get lucky and noticed.

[–] LeadPaintPhoto@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Taking photos of yourself, doing adult things, and posting on OF.

[–] tastywave@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

What if you’re ugly? Asking for a friend. Marketing in Germany?

[–] LeadPaintPhoto@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Everyone can float someone's boat. My retirement plan is to do OF and specialize in naked disc golfing. Build private courts in my property and live stream myself nude and throwing. Guy who looks like a bear, nude disc golf streams. I'll just take one of these Pro Photographers marketing courses and I'll pull in a client base 😂 🤣 😂 🤣

[–] LeicaM6guy@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] tastywave@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m sure some “paparazzi” get PAID

[–] iwantae30@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I know a paparazzi photographer that makes well over 50k for a good shot. 20k for a bad shot. It’s absolutely insane what paparazzi get paid

[–] Effective-Bandicoot6@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] Spatula_The_Great@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Their are illegal fields in photography?

[–] adventcrash@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Toy photography. I’ve always loved photography but during the pandemic I feel into toy photography as a hobby and I fell hard.

[–] SirLambelot@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

How you make it profitable?

[–] Intelligent_Quit_621@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

bank robbery photos

[–] ctiz1@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Commercial photography, without a doubt, 100%

Big companies have shitloads of cash and are willing to pay really big dollars for the right photography. It’s rare but there are commercial photographers grossing over a million a year, and netting in the high 6 figures easily.

[–] Wh1skyJack@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Any idea what the first step into getting in commercial? Been shooting wedding for almost 20 years and would like to pivot

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[–] aperturephotography@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Going by how much this year's cost.... individual student school photos

£28 for 4 prints 2 large 2 small. Imagine a school of 500 done in a day.

[–] runsanditspaidfor@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Weddings and real estate. I do inventory photography for car dealerships and have made a living at it for the last 5 years, but I also have subcontractors who do a good bit of the actual work.

[–] nibbl3rs@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I temped for a corporate portrait photographer. These CEO/execs had limited time so we would get in, set up, have 15mins with the talent then get out. An hour tops. She would then turn around 5 frames the next day. I'm fairly certain she was banking 5k a shoot, and this was 10 years ago.

[–] nourright@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Boudoir. Although it's hard to get into.

[–] NefsM@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Gona say horse photography. You can make a fortune from that if you get really good at it.

[–] possiblyraspberries@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Seconding that. I work in a similar niche and make bank. The key is combining photography with another skill, interest, or hobby. I have nearly no substantial competition and have clients coming out of my ears with zero dollars spent on marketing and actively avoiding people.

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[–] Automatic_Category56@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Like at eventing? Or for breeders? Or private clients who want portraits of their horse? I photograph lots of sheep and cows on jobs but haven’t done horses

[–] Makri93@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago
[–] gilbertcarosin@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

- youtube gear review and clickbait ( you don't need to be an actual photographer for this )

- selling presets

- workshop - masterclass - online training ( very profitable when there is a lockdown )

in the real world of photography

doing commercial for big brands ( fashion and product )

doing headshot for vip and actors or businessmen

family and portrait session

all these 3 of course require having a complete studio

[–] knuF@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Surf https://aphotoeditor.com and you’ll find plenty of $100k+ jobs in commercial photography. Easier said than done!

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[–] xblkout@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

My business partner and I went into a partnership with his photography business he started that mainly focused on nightlife photography (bars, nightclubs, etc) and we branch into private functions like birthday parties, engagement parties, corporate functions. We’ve made it so we have around 4 photographers that we rotate on a weekly basis to go around 8 different venues with an hour at each take photos, edit them and deliver to us. We pay them their rate and we get paid via the businesses we take photos at. We also try and win the private function leads that I’ll either do or book one of our photographers in for it. I make sure that all our photographers get the mentoring and coaching free of charge when required but this has been a pretty cool little niche way of making passive income (I work part time in a retail job during the week) but hopefully with a bit more work being put into the business it can become more of a full time thing.

[–] carefree_dude@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Selling stuff to photographers trying to make money

[–] markusaureliuss@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago
[–] franscum@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I've been doing real estate photography for about 8 years currently making about 150K per year

[–] dancingmeadow@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

pornography.

[–] patric023@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Selling things to other photographers. Look at all the filters, bags, tripods, and other accessories that influencer photographers slap their names on and sell.

Also, pictures of potatoes, at least if you can get someone to pay 1 million dollars for one.

[–] travelingman802@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Selling stuff to other budding photographers I would imagine by a long shot. Nikon, Sony, Canon all makes lots of money. Then there's the people who make memory cards, batteries, third party chargers, straps, attachment devices, etc. Then there's the people who do photography trips and such.

[–] Emotional-Ad7872@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

The one you like the most

[–] Basic_Coffee8969@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Police mug shots

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