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My question is basically the title itself, but if I have to give more context, I'd say:

I really love raw/natural pictures: smiles, persons, laughs, lights, landscapes, scenes... And sometimes I can capture these moments but sometimes I miss my shot and want to "redo" it when I take a picture of someone. The thing is, once I ask them if I can take a picture of them, their body just, just does not act as natural. Some people (including me) do not know what to do with their body in front of a camera, so they often just stand up straight. I figured out something (maybe) that kinda works: I make them laugh or I ask them to do somthing that requires more movement, like jumping, but you can guess that I'm not always funny or I do not always have something to say, or I do not always want my subject to jump.

So please I'd really like some advices/tips/help

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[–] sofuckincreative@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are a bunch of guides on YouTube. I will say on my recent family shoot that it’s good to feel a connection and like yourself with the least amount of tension as possible. Get what you can with guidance and personality. Your client definitely feels you and you want to make a day out of it in a sense. Even if it’s only a half hour. Interact but be personable.

Edit: Sorry I sound so cut and dry. This idea has done wonders for me though in tricky situations.

[–] IM_YOL0O@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

You do not sound cut and dry do not worry

There are a bunch of guides on YouTube. I will say on my recent family shoot that it’s good to feel a connection and like yourself with the least amount of tension as possible. Get what you can with guidance and personality. Your client definitely feels you and you want to make a day out of it in a sense. Even if it’s only a half hour. Interact but be personable.

I'm not sure to understand what you mean, can you please rephrase your idea? English is not my main language

[–] 2deep4u@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I’d like to know too

[–] StevoPhotography@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Talking to them throughout the session and keeping them comfortable is probably the most important part I’d imagine

[–] cvaldez74@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This. Have actual conversations with them. Ask lots of questions about themselves -what do you do for work, hobbies, etc? Shoot while they’re talking (tell them you’ll be doing this) but have your face out from behind the camera so you can make eye contact. Their bodies will naturally relax and their facial expressions will be real.

[–] Haywire421@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

This wouldn't work for people like me that don't like to talk about themselves. You'd get the exact opposite of relaxed

[–] GeneralChillMen@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Two things I use that have worked fairly well for me:

-Get the group all together, and just before you start shooting say, "OK now pretend like you all like each other." Usually gets a fairly genuine laugh/smile from everyone.

-Have two people stand next to each other, tell them to make a serious face while looking directly at each other. Then all you gotta do is repeat, "OK now whatever you do, don't laugh. DO NOT LAUGH." That combination is almost always guaranteed to make them smile and/or laugh genuinely.

[–] IM_YOL0O@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's a really good advice! Thank you I'll write that down.
But do you have tips for portraits with only one person?

[–] GeneralChillMen@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The "Whatever you do don't laugh" trick can work on a single person in my experience. Again, start off by telling them to do a serious face first. You also gotta draw it out a bit when you're telling them not to laugh, but say it in kind of an exaggerated way that'll be more likely to cause them to break.

[–] IM_YOL0O@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Oh ok, I'll try that

[–] yungfototakr@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I do a lot of senior portraits, and it actually really helps when a parent and/or friend is there! I require a parent’s presence for minors anyway, but it’s always been an extra bonus that the parent is someone they’re familiar and comfortable with. I rely on mom/dad jokes to kind of break the ice, and then I encourage interaction with me/the camera, actual movement into a pose instead of a frozen pose, and I try to be as silly as possible to get some laughs.

[–] alohadave@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

-Get the group all together, and just before you start shooting say, "OK now pretend like you all like each other." Usually gets a fairly genuine laugh/smile from everyone.

I do this for group shots at events. People tend to stand shoulder to shoulder, and saying this usually gets them closer together.

[–] No-Assistant1316@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This isn’t a trick for getting a more natural shot but is a good trick for when you have people who are uncomfortable being photographed, or state they dislike pictures of themselves. Reverse the image before you show it to them and majority of the time they are way happier with the shot. We’re used to seeing ourselves in reverse as in our mirror reflection.

We did this on a recent shoot for company head shots and the usual candidates who took ages to get a shot they liked were happy first or second time.

[–] IM_YOL0O@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Thank you for this tip!

[–] stygyan@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Yesterday I had a shoot like this. Client only wanted a couple headshots for her linkedin and resume, but she was shy and didn't know how to pose.

I started to talk to her, told her anecdotes, told her about the stuff i have in my shelves, asked about why she decided to migrate, blahblahblah. As we were talking, i kept on shooting.

It's all about making them forget there's a camera.

[–] spinferno@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

If I'm shooting an event, I sometimes shoot once, then give a warm thank you, and when that warmth is reflected back I take another shot to catch it. During photoshoots, I gain trust by showing the results on each refinement

[–] dsarche12@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I find that putting people into generally the poses i want, and then joking with them, asking them questions, hav ing a conversation with them while shooting will always elicit the reactions and poses I want.

People who are uncomfortable in front of the camera will always be uncomfortable in front of the camera if they’re also uncomfortable with the person behind it. If you can help them feel comfortable with you they’ll be much more comfortable and easygoing during the shoot.

[–] wdn@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I try to take a photo the second they're in position, well before they're expecting it. That one often turns out well.

For kids, tell them, "Say 'cheetah'," drawing out the ah. Take the photo while they're saying the ah. Between the fun/novelty and the position of their mouths, it will look like they're all laughing.

[–] Haywire421@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I don't mess with portrait photography but when it comes to drawing at least, we have something called static poses and dynamic poses. I'm not entirely sure, but it kinda sounds like you like dynamic poses. If I were doing portraits, and wanted dynamic poses, I'd treat the subject(s) more like actors, and instruct them to do something. "Take a bite of this apple", "walk across this crosswalk while talking on the phone", "dance to this music", "throw a punch at me" etc. Depending on what you are going for might require you to be more dynamic too rather than standing in a fixed place with a tripod. You might have to work more akin to a cameraman filming a movie. Burst shots could be beneficial.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/blog.daisie.com/dramatic-pose-reference-a-comprehensive-guide-for-artists/amp/

[–] sean_themighty@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

For wedding groups of my favorites is “on the count of three look at your favorite person” and without skipping a beat immediately count off. It’s usually cute and everyone looks at the bride or groom or whatever but then after that they all look at each other and are happy.

But if that’s not enough… then say “now on the count of three look at your least favorite person,” again immediately count down without giving much time to think. It is always in good fun and everyone laughs so much.

[–] starsky1984@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I don't do this with everyone, but particularly if it's someone I know (and trust haha) I sometimes give them the camera and I go and stand in the spot I want them to model in. I'll tell them to look me through the camera and consider things like how much posture looks, how much shadows or harsh light there is on my face, how different I look when squinting or frowning etc. That tends to get them very comfortable and they understand what I'm looking for when I am directing them in the shoot.

If it's someone I wouldn't trust with my camera, I can still do the same just asking them to stand there and put themselves in my shoes to get them thinking about the shoot.

One last caveat: for one or two people, they were so nervous and overthought everything, I didn't take this approach because it would just confuse them too much. This is easy to gauge when chatting with them leading up to the shoot.

[–] lovemykitchen@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Get them talking. Keep it light if you want smiles or whatever matches the expression you’re after. The digital age is wonderful for being able to take loads of photos and cull without the expense of negatives.

[–] lovemykitchen@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I also like making them look backwards or as far around as possible without hurting their neck. Shoot as they turn forward. Either just head and shoulders or whole body. It makes for really natural movement and expressions

[–] marslander-boggart@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Talk to them. Get more time than you need for just shooting. Continue shooting and talking, until either the person will get used to camera or you run out of time. This is for portraits.

For street photo, use 90mm or 135mm lens on APS-C and m43 and 135mm or 200mm lens on full frame.

[–] jpaphoto@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I like to get my subject set, light set, and camera set, also camera on a tripod. Then I come out from behind the camera and sit next to it and talk with the subject. Talk about things they like. And when I see the look I’m going for I fire the camera. People are generally camera shy and hiding behind it hides who we are and can sometimes make it really hard for a shy subject to open up like we want. Hope this helps

[–] IM_YOL0O@alien.top 1 points 9 months ago

I did not think of that, maybe because I don't have a tripod yet but it's clearly something usefull thank you!