Political Discussion and Commentary

I just wish people would stop focusing on something from the past that cannot be undone. And if you voted for Trump and regret your choice and actually have achieved empathy in the process I have no reason to make you my enemy. This is not the time to be going after each other when everyone is going to get fucked. You can silently enjoy someone's misfortune, but it's a misfortune that we will all see and experience in due time and it's not productive for the future we are all going to endure. And right now, whether you are a democrat or a republican, the rest of the world is angry at you. Nobody is going to come and save the US and we need to get our shit together and stop focusing on what can't be undone.

If you look at polling there is a significant number of republicans that are just as angry as democrats. And we need to help them so they can help us. The only thing blaming and "owning" each other is going to accomplish is that nothing will change. It's like being on a sinking ship while everyone laughs that the other guy is going to drown while making no effort to get off the boat.

Regarding comment 2, there is nothing legal that can be done about the situation. What am I supposed to do? Enjoy a vacation to Gitmo?

Most Americans either voted for the orange moron or didn't care enough to vote against him. And there was plenty of evidence about what he was going to do; there was his first term, and there were all his speeches about what he was going to do, and is now doing.

So there is no excuse. Most Americans approved this, either implicitly or explicitly, because they did not vote for the alternative. Honestly I'm surprised Harris couldn't win simply with the message "I'm not Trump."

America is too large to make generalizations about it. Politics, culture, and beliefs are all very highly localized and even worse, it's land that votes, not people. People who come from countries the size of a single US state will never fully understand.

On 2024-11-05, of the eligible voting population in the US, roughly:

• ⅓ voted for Trump.
• ⅓ voted for someone other than Trump.
• ⅓ didn’t vote.

As far as I’m concerned, if you’re eligible to vote and choose not to, you’re implicitly throwing your support behind whoever wins.

⅔ of the eligible US voting population to some degree support, and are responsible for, everything that is happening in their federal government now.

The rest of the world interpreted it as the US saying it doesn’t wish to be taken seriously for at least the next 2 years. We can resume discussion when they decide to choose adults to represent them again.

The main problem is that America is turning into a Nazi bar.

"Why don't Americans just launch The Revolution?"

If only all it took was the government doing a genocide

This is also the case in the UK, and it's the size of . . . what, Alabama?

At face value and objectively it’s wrong.

Most Americans did not vote for Trump.

Here’s how it works:

*US Population, adult over 18: ~250 million.

*Of that population, ~244 million are eligible to vote.

*Of eligible voters, only 63.9% voted.

*Of the 63.9%, less than half, 49.8%, went to Trump. To re-emphasize that point, Trump did not get more than 50%.

*Harris got 48.3%

*The ~1% difference voted third party.

The math is pretty basic. 63.9% of 250 million is 159.7 million voting, 49.8% of that voting for trump is 79.5 million.

So out of 250 million, ~32% actually voted for trump. The rest is the issue with the electoral college, but we’re talking people, not the EC.

But wait, that’s just voters. What about people?

Pew shows 49% Democrats, 48% Republican, 3% other, so 52% are not Republican.

So by no metric are a majority conservative or Republican.

It's not like they suddenly appeared a few months before the election.

I live in an area where most people think a certain way. And wouldn't you know it! Everyone around me thinks that certain way. Extrapolate to all other areas.

It's your country and your representatives, those are the people you chose that our leaders have to deal with. Besides it does not matter if you support them or not, these people you chose as leaders clearly do not give a single fuck. I would feel sorry for you, but sadly you dug yourself into this hole no matter what. So it does not matter which most is the real one, all US citizens still will have to deal with the same shitty choices they've made.

If the situation was that of China or Russia, maybe individuals should be given a bit more benefit of the doubt, but you're talking about the literal self proclaimed "land of the free".