Honestly I don't see myself getting a switch 2 until its able to be emulated. and I'm buying it and all the games used so I don't have to support Nintendo financially
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The console price, the game price and no oled screen as well as it being so damn big make it a hard pass for me.
Il wait for the Switch 2 Lite OLED.
$450 and not OLED is insane
I don't blame them. Nintendo fans buy anything at any price. I don't see it being different this time.
Mario Kart 8 never goes on sale and sold 70m copies; Pokémon Scarlet/Violet sold 30m despite looking and playing like dogshit; they sold Skyward Sword HD, the remaster of a 10-yo game, at full price and still placed a few millions.
Nintendo is basically like Apple at this point, the brand is enough to convince people to spend more than they would for the competition, regardless of quality. I personally know a lot of people who loudly groaned/complained at the price announcement, but will still buy it day one, just like they always had in all these years.
And people terminally online should stop pretending the Steam Deck is competition to the Switch 2. It couldn't even compete with the Switch 1, which was five years older, had worse performance, and had been easily emulated for years at that point.
Nintendo fans buy anything at any price.
Counterpoint: Wii U.
Nintendo is basically like Apple at this point, the brand is enough to convince people to spend more than they would for the competition, regardless of quality.
People spend more on Apple/Nintendo because of quality. Windows is ten years gone to enshittification. The ps5/xbox have ads on their home screen and are one bad GTA away from a full industry crash
People spend more on Apple/Nintendo because of quality.
Perhaps we had very different experiences with the JoyCon...
Joking aside, I agree. I used to buy Nintendo for that reason. Then came JoyCon drift and out of control Nintendo lawyers.
No. They buy Apple & Nintendo because of brand loyalty and their social significance.
Have you not seen how deranged they get about those companies products? Nintendo fans lose their minds if someone dare criticize a Mario, Metroid, and especially Zelda games.
Apple fanatics think every new product is a revolution even though some other company or organization has usually already beat them to the punch.
Further, Windows, PS5, & Xbox are are not their only competition. And even then, they are enshitiffied now but that doesn't explain Nintendo and Apple fans behavior before those competitors became this way.
You're overreacting to other people's social media overreactions. I'm talking about the actual products they sell.
You're not wrong, Nintendo fans will buy this. As a Nintendo fan, I will buy this - though, it's gone from a Day 1, no-brainer purchase to "when I can justify the expense" - but Nintendo fans make up a small fraction of people who bought a Switch 1.
See: Wii U, 3DS
The Wii and DS printed money, and they assumed most of those users would move on to the new hardware. They did not. They had to slash the 3DS price within months, and nothing saved the Wii U.
Probably not going to happen, but I think it would be awesome if it’s like the 3DS where they realize the cost is too much, then they lower the price significantly and the early adopters who sacrificed their firstborns for it will have some sort of ambassador program.
Iwata is gone, and it really shows.
Apart from both being TV/Handheld hybrid consoles, I’m not understanding why people think Switch/2 and Steam Deck are in direct competition with each other. They aren’t. They’re in totally separate leagues.
Similar form factor, similar price, similar use case. The big difference is that one plays Nintendo games and another plays PC games.
I own a steam deck, therefore the appeal of a switch 2 is their exclusive games. I don't need both, they scratch the same itch.
They both play nintendo games, dont give money to bad companies.
The question is how many of the Switch 1 buyers are Nintendo fans. Many, like me, bought Switch entering for 1st time to the Nintendo, but i am not consider myself a loyal mindless fan. With kids and families is harder though.
I will just skip Switch 2 and just play only in my PC like i always had. If they release a good Steam Deck that it is worthy, i will consider it. If the market slaps them and they return to reality, i will consider Switch 2 for 2026.
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It's not convoluted at all. It's extremely simple: if you want to (edit: legally) play first party Nintendo titles (or other exclusives), you MUST buy a switch. If you don't care about Nintendo exclusives, there's absolutely no reason to own a switch. That has been true of every, single Nintendo console ever released... except for the Wii. People bought a Wii so they could play a motion control game with Grandma once or twice, and then just let the console sit and collect dust.
When the Switch 1 released there was nothing else on the market like it. Play handheld on the bus, get home, dock it, continue playing in full HD. That is amazing. I didn't get the Switch 1 because of the exclusives, it was the versatility that got me.
I agree that Nintendo was ahead of the curve when it came to expanding portable gaming, but the only reason the switch sold so many units, and ultimately got so many games ported to it, was because of Nintendo first party titles. If you look at the best selling switch titles, the vast majority of them are Nintendo games. Without Nintendo first party titles, the switch would have been far outsold by better devices.
Yuzu would like to have a word
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Best time to buy Nintendo hardware is after the announcement of a hardware exploit.
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The only thing "convoluted" about this whole announcement was pricing. The price of the console The price of the games The price of their online services and upgrades...
All of that is gut-wrenching as Nintendo claws at its dedicated fans wallets.
Otherwise the features and games look amazing, i understand why people are willing to pay those prices.
Fingers crossed we luck out with easy jailbreaks and emulators like we did for the Switch 1.
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But $450 does feels like the upper limit cost of something you give a child, and if you're charging me Real Console money for this then I kinda expect to be treated like an adult.
It is a Real Console. Today's big showpiece was fucking Bloodborne 2 and some people still can't get out of their bubble where they think it's a children's toy.
Nintendo deliberately exited the Real Console wars after the Gamecube. This is an interesting time for them to decide to re-join it.
Nintendo launched the first Switch at $299; just accounting for inflation over the past years - that’s ~$390 now, BEFORE even trying to account for any Trump-tariffs they have been (or will be) imposed on electronics hardware.
I hate to give Nintendo credit, but $450 is actually somewhat reasonable given the current global shit-show.
To your point
Atari
Atari 2600 (1977) – $199.99 (~$1,010 today)
Magnavox
Magnavox Odyssey (1972) – $99.99 (~$745 today)
Nintendo
Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) (1985) – $199.99 (~$560 today)
Super Nintendo Entertainment System (SNES) (1991) – $199.99 (~$460 today)
Nintendo 64 (1996) – $199.99 (~$400 today)
GameCube (2001) – $199.99 (~$345 today)
Wii (2006) – $249.99 (~$375 today)
Nintendo Switch (2017) – $299.99 (~$370 today)
Sega
Sega Master System (1986) – $199.99 (~$550 today)
Sega Genesis (1989) – $189.99 (~$470 today)
Sony (PlayStation)
PlayStation (PS1) (1995) – $299.99 (~$600 today)
PlayStation 2 (2000) – $299.99 (~$540 today)
PlayStation 3 (2006) – $499.99 - $599.99 (~$750 - $900 today)
PlayStation 4 (2013) – $399.99 (~$540 today)
PlayStation 5 (2020) – $399.99 - $499.99 (~$480 - $600 today)
Microsoft (Xbox)
Xbox (2001) – $299.99 (~$520 today)
Xbox 360 (2005) – $299.99 - $399.99 (~$470 - $630 today)
Xbox One (2013) – $499.99 (~$675 today)
Xbox Series X (2020) – $499.99 (~$600 today)
Many thanks for this! Really puts the console gaming hobby into perspective.
My two biggest take-aways:
- Holy shit, that Atari 2600 was expensive!
- Really explains why the PlayStation 3 stumbled out of the gate, oof!
It's not just the console prices that have gone up. Console is, 470 euros, Mario Kart is 90 euros, Pro Controller 2 is 90 euros, the SD card is 60 euros, a webcam is 60 euros...
Meanwhile, their competition is getting cheaper every day.
My point is more that new/launch technology is always more expensive at launch, until economies of scale can kick in; and this is the first console launch after the 1-2 years of post-COVID double-digit inflation globally.
It sucks, and I’m not trying to excuse it or hand-wave it away - more-so just pointing out that it was kinda foreseeable, given the current state of things.
If you think this is bad, wait until the next round of console launches in ~2027 from Sony.
I can understand the console being more expensive, especially since we don't really know its specs yet (or at least I don't). Why is Mario Kart 30 euros more expensive, tho? It doesn't paint a good picture.
I’m an old curmudgeon, and I remember (my parents) paying ~$50 for SNES back in the early-to-mid ‘90s; so I’m not exactly shocked that Nintendo have lifted their sell-price.
Compared to back then; gaming is still somewhat more affordable, which definitely feels counter-intuitive - I know!
Japan has for the first time since 1991 had >2% annual inflation for 3 straight years, definitively ending their 2+ decade of stagflation. Developer wages are going up, and games take longer to develop - those costs need to be covered. I am in support of paying a fair market price if (and only if), that increase goes to the labour, and not shareholder profits.
Seeing as the Executive team at Nintendo opted to take a salary-cut, rather than lay off staff, following the failure of the WiiU — they have exactly one credit from me, for the benefit of the doubt.
But that is where my good graces end; other developers are going to take this as the green light to further increase prices on their own (unfinished, rushed, micropayment-laden) titles, across the industry. Heck, there are rumblings that the base version of GTA6 may be $100USD!
I think most people are more upset about Nintendo pushing an $80 price tag for first party games. TotK put a bad taste in a lot of peoples' mouths, but it was both a technical marvel and highly anticipated. People were beyond hyped about the game years before we learned about the increased price.
Mario Kart World was announced out of the blue, and while it looks like a ton of fun, it's not the same kind of 'I would be disappointed if I didn't play it before I died' as TotK. So a further bump in price for it just feels awful.
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