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One man suffering from dementia says some stupid stuff and breaks a trade agreement: we turn on our closest ally. Not just financially, but emotionally and culturally.
India and China literally murder our citizens, even on our own land, meddle in our elections, operate extra-jurisdictional government sites and agents in our territory, and we're like, hey you guys, wanna be our new best friend?
Trump is a shock and we're getting shock doct'd.
As someone living among the arrogant bastards, please do. Send them back to the holes they squirmed out of.
Look, i'm all for defeating the maga virus, but let's not underestimate the danger we face from the the US. It's 100% POSSIBLE that the yanks will try to invade us within the next couple of years. If that happens, many if not most of us will be killed, imprisoned or impoverished. So we must have a plan to retaliate and make it too costly for the US to invade.
PLEASE DO!
Ignorant American here, I don't care if you hate us, if you can do something to stop this, you might have less resistance than you expect. I know everyone wants to pretend every country is a monolith and act like everyone in the entire country supports their government, even though this is universally untrue; but the reality is that only a chunk of Americans voted and only roughly half of that chunk voted for that orange piece of shit.
Something like 27% of people of legal voting age in the US voted for him, allegedly. That's including people who didn't vote, not registered, etc.
I have no problem with taking the arrogant bastards down, but that’s not all the people in the US.
What I really want to see is A Bug’s Life come to life, with the American people finally rising up and burying their oligarch overlords.
I’d be willing to assist them in that just like France did last time.
Thank you, kind sibling. This rift is the most frustrating diplomatic choice I've ever seen America make. I hope we can make it right and grow closer someday.
Make no mistake: there are still others in this world who care about you, as a people. Your leaders are not on that list: they do not care about you. That much has been made evident for a long time. Even more importantly, the billionaires who call the tune your leaders dance to definitely do not care about you. Change cannot be exerted externally: it must come from within.
I'd love to see it happen, I will support it in any way I can.
Until such time as it does happen, as long as they continue milling about uselessly expecting maga to start following the laws any minute now and doing nothing else significant to obstruct it... Fuck em, they're paying the taxes and powering the machine that is trying to destroy us.
That’s an interesting one… I wonder how many people are seeing the chaos at social services and the IRS this year and just deciding not to pay taxes?
Voting is only ONE of the ways to affect government.
I considered the fact that tax fraud is basically allowed right now, but I'm somebody that gets a return so it wouldn't make sense for me to not file. The taxes the guy you're replying to is referring to were taken out of my paycheck without my choice, it's not like I happily and willfully put money into an envelope every quarter to send to the government, and this isn't a fantasy world where I can just choose to not work.
You bring up a good point, but I'm not sure enough Americans are ready or aware, or desperate enough, yet, that civil disobedience is a thing. I hope they progress to using it very soon.
Bananas in ICE vehicle tailpipes. Not paying taxes. Jamming ICE 'snitch' phone numbers with spurious reports ... that sort of thing.
agreed but also all of these will be declared to be terrorism within the year
Doesn't mean you shouldn't do it anyway.
Absolutely. I’m sick of pretending that American liberals aren’t compliant in this shit.
We're ruining this place so fast that a lot of Americans are about to join me in learning how to protest.
International reaction is slow on actual retaliations. Europe failing to announce aggressive specific measures on Monday will be a bad sign. Absolute shameful disgrace for them to commit further to US empire's Ukraine/Russia mission, even as Macron said some stern words against tariffs.
Other than China, Carney is only one to impose tariffs on US. Low hanging fruit that directly benefits Canadians and other colonies is to publicly cancel F35 purchases, and other US weapon systems. There is an impression that they are privately paused, but that is simply not as strong as either a public pause or cancellation.
Boeing, Catterpillar, and Deere all have international competition and are easy to destroy through global boycotts or high tariffs. China retaliation has effectively killed the US's largest energy export market, and Europe needs to tariff or price cap US energy. Europe needs to pull off bandaid of begging for US leadership. It will be a much longer process of deposing US agents in their rulership if they continue treachery against their people.
Obviously also, the tariffs are a major attack against US companies, and the broad ownership of them throughout US society. Even if EU traitors lick the diaper, those US interests will pressure WH. Shelves will be empty as businesses wait for tariff cancellation before ordering new product. In Soviet US, there were no breadlines, but the avocado and toaster rations were insufficient to satisfy the avocado toast fad.
There's already dumb motherfuckers with "us flag / 51st" stickers on their pickup trucks driving around BC. Saw one a few hours ago. Gotta take care of that shit too
Gotta take care of that shit too
This is why Freedom of Speech is such an important right. Lets everyone know who the problem is.
Announcing is good.
Trump's actions will create a power vacuum that will benefit the worlds biggest players, especially China.
But smaller players may also have a chance to jump a few rungs on the influence ladder. Could Canada be one of those nations?
Most people are afraid of how tariffs will tank the global economy (which they will) but there may be a small window of oppurtunity here too.
I actually don't think China will be a significant benefactor for the US imposed power vacuum. Frankly, their economy is going to shit and they just don't have anything to fill in the bottom that's falling out. Apparently it's starting to look like their population is only a third of what they claimed it to be, and most of their factories are shutting down. Their ghost cities are now not even being completed as everybody's three generations investments are becoming worth less than the dirt it was built on. Even the refugees illegally entering the US through the Mexico boarder last year were majority Chinese.
Russia as well is now a borderline third world country, and the middle east is falling apart with decades of infighting and hate, not to mention that the oil they funded everything with is becoming harder and harder to sell between the green transition and Canada entering their markets as we pull out of the US.
Amazingly, I think that the stagnating EU is going to be the greatest benefactors of this power vacuum, if for no other reason than that nobody else is in a position to take advantage. Maybe Rwanda or another African nation can fill in the gap with how some of them are modernizing at an incredible pace, but considering all the wars they are fighting, not to mention that Rwanda is participating in another genocide right now, I have little expectations there for the next decade or two. South-east Asia and India stands a far better chance of becoming major world powers in that time, but they have their own internal problems to get over before having the power and influence on a world level.
So yea, EU is likely the next world leader and potentially the sole super power as the US crumbles under the weight of a rotting orange.
Frankly, their economy is going to shit and they just don’t have anything to fill in the bottom that’s falling out.
That is simply not reality. Global manufacturing center. Even with slowdown/flat housing sector, they've managed 5% growth just from manufacturing. Low debt. Everything else you said is outdated and false, IMO, and just part of desperate smear propaganda we are fed continuously.
China's opportunity is to subsidize its consumer sector inviting nations that want to be friendly to it to export. Asia is low hanging fruit. Europe has luxury and alcohol, airplanes, but also well made status cars.
Big mistake for Canada to shut out China based on US smears and hatred. EU does not lead without extensive cooperation with China, or warmongering against Russia. China can treat EU better than US, but deprogramming from Russophobia and Sinophobia just seems so far away, that them choosing to be 52nd state is closer to overton window despite US attacks.
I really wonder which of us is deluded by propaganda.
Putting aside the fact that I seriously doubt that 5% declared is rooted in reality, there is zero doubt that the Chinese population is drowning in debt. When it takes a half decade of work just to put a down payment for a home, and they have hundreds of millions of home units verifiably existing, and entire cities of completed homes with only a small fraction of which are being used, with evidence of such popping up all the time, saying that the population isn't in a desperate financial situation is ludicrous.
I do agree that Asia is a low hanging fruit, but that's mostly India and southeast Asia. China has no ability to import anything beyond base commodities and any decent scale. Just look at their stock markets and how they're all wildly fluctuating like a gambling addict at a craps table. Not to mention that many of their greatest corporations are either going under or fleeing the country.
Foxconn of all companies have mostly moved out have set up base in India and the Philippines. Not to mention the top five construction companies are all going under with debts in the billions.
And if that's not enough for you, what about all the refugees that are crossing over from Colombia? That the US declared last year that Chinese made up the greatest single group seeking asylum via one of the world's most dangerous migration paths.
doubt that 5% declared is rooted in reality
Been 20 years of smears repeating it after every quarter. 8%+ electricity growth is consistent with 5% gdp growth.
When it takes a half decade of work just to put a down payment for a home
Seems much worse here. Policy for abundance is what makes China successful. Our corruption needs to project winning, being better, in order to protect our corruption.
what about all the refugees that are crossing over from Colombia? That the US declared last year that Chinese made up the greatest single group seeking asylum via one of the world’s most dangerous migration paths.
I don't know about that. But a Chinese policy to promote stability is that permission is required to move to a new province. While every province wealth/growth is very strong, with poorer provinces growing faster through subsidy/investment, there may still be the opportunity seeking that you describe. OTOH, it could all be another lie.
You say the electricity growth is 8%, yet night time luminosity in China's never actually kept up with such numbers the entire time. Not even close. This is the single most objectively reliable source for determining the affluency of a region, since you can't hide the lights used by the average citizen at night.
And I mean, you call it all a smear campaign, but it's a well known fact that China's been faking its population numbers. That 1.3 billion population was entirely faked and completely impossible, not to mention that the COVID coverup is also a well known and documented phenomena. In fact, there's strong evidence to show that not only was those numbers vastly different from reality, but the degree of which is staggering. Most studies, both internationally and within China, state that the total population in 2020 was likely under a billion, with most estimates being closer to 800 million. This is in line with the police database that was leaked around the same time.
Not only that, but the death rate wasn't the usual single digit percentage the government has been insisting, but rather, it might be as high as 50% of the population. While there isn't much concrete evidence for this since the level of suppression means that it's insanely difficult to get concrete numbers, the estimates are based on the amount of cremations done during the last five years compared to past trends. And if that's not enough, imports of common staples like table salt has gone down by 50% despite no signs of any increase of local production.
You keep insisting that everything is swell in China and that anything that says otherwise is just propaganda, but you completely ignore easily verifiable evidence of the contrary like their own publicly release stock market numbers, or their actual trade volumes reported by other nations.
China is a nation that states things first, then expects the evidence to follow what the government says. That's why they put GDP growth targets, unlike pretty much every country in the world.
but you completely ignore easily verifiable evidence of the contrary like their own publicly release stock market numbers, or their actual trade volumes reported by other nations.
Stock market is a measure of oligarchy and scarcity. I will look at a link on mismatch of china exports with other nation imports.
hi. american here. please do. this guy sucks and tolerance of him is unacceptable. you will find many people like me to aid and abet you as you sweep through
If you're talking about a full scale invasion. You will likely find yourself in an Iraq style conflict. Foreign forces in your country are rarely seen as liberators. Especially if for the majority of citizens life hasn't deteriorated to a point like Paris 1943
Exactly, and Canadians will be supporting one another and spotting for military, while US troops rely on a supply line. Many Americans think we don't have guns here. That will be a surprise for them.
I believe the original comment was referring to a Canadian invasion of the US.
Oh right, I misread that, thanks
It is happening in small ways already. A food supplier here could not sell Silk (US brand) beverage product. They had so much aging stock they had to donate to non-profits and food banks. We all just need to stick to the boycotts even if is uncomfortable.
My husband went to the grocery store last night and forgot to check labels. He had this feeling of dread and was checking them as was putting everything away. To his relief, none of the items were American.
Not saying we should stop being vigilant, but the market is reacting to consumer demand and it's getting easier to avoid US products. I can't wait for our growing season to be in full swing...
kick their teeth in
kick our teeth in!!
Elbows up!
the orange chump is driving himself into the dirt already
Form a free trade zone with EU!
Agreed. Let’s fucking do this.
Recruit the 1/3 of Americans who hate his guts. They'll help you for free.
They shouldn't need us to "recruit" them.
"Inspire" might be a better word. They're not all stupid, you know. Indoctrination doesn't care how smart you are. They get you young enough, beat the drum steady for long enough, smart people can be convinced of very stupid things.
Lets get in their face. No more false humility. Let's show them that, imperfect and broken as we are, we know a better way to do some of this stuff. Follow our lead, make your country a better place.
The real ones don't. The performative ones will.
Fuck us up. I wish we could stop him ourselves but systems that can't self-correct must be recreated by a higher consciousness