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    "When does get update ?" moment. (lemmy.world)
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    [–] palordrolap@fedia.io 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

    Package version 0.01: Built with libraries abc version 2, def version 0.1 and ghi version 7.2.2

    Your system has requirements: abc version 2, def version 0.2 and ghi version 8.0.0

    Package version 0.02: Requires abc version 3, def version 0.2 and ghi version 8.0.1

    You realise that those differences in version would mean that you would have to basically recompile (then debug and recompile) your entire operating system with the three upgraded packages, and deal with a full cascade of dependencies, not just the package you really want to compile, OR basically sit down and rewrite Package 0.02 from the ground up using older libraries than it was originally written for.

    You decide to make do with the old version of the package.

    [–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

    Can you not build it in a venv to not mess with your system packages?

    [–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 13 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

    Hey, get your Gentoo propaganda out of here.

    [–] RobotZap10000@feddit.nl 4 points 5 hours ago

    "Tomorrow"

    [–] Pippipartner@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

    Ah the Linux help desk where you get helpful directions like "You have a problem with your dual monitor setup in your naively installed Ubuntu setup? Have you considered installing a rust micro kernel from an abandoned GitHub repo? After cherry picking some patches from a mailinglist? Also boon plep Ubuntu looser."

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    [–] JakobFel@retrolemmy.com 21 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

    I don't care for this mentality. I understand constant questions must get old for developers/contributors but the mentality that people should compile from the source is not conducive to growing FOSS. It is, however, potentially conducive to laziness from the devs. "Eh, why should I spend time releasing compiled builds? Let the plebs compile themselves."

    [–] dreadbeef@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago

    How much do you donate to FOSS?

    [–] ikidd@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago

    Devs don't usually package for specific distros unless it's a generic format like Appimage that can just be downloaded. Distro maintainers need to get it into the format their package manager uses and update the list to make it available.

    [–] Chee_Koala@lemmy.world 55 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

    Why even use releases? Everyone can build everything for themselves. 'Normal Users' are just lazy, everyone wants to know how every piece of software is built for their system, it's not like they have other stuff to do.

    [–] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

    I thought that was what Gentoo was doing, but they have far more binary packages nowadays than I thought they'd ever get.

    [–] msage@programming.dev 1 points 1 hour ago

    llvm, clang are packages I give 0 fucks about, but take a significant part of my updates. I never really got around to it, but I will try to make them binary downloads instead of building that shit. Like I understand gcc, but have 0 interest in llvm, and can't have firefox without it.. smh

    [–] crony@lemmy.cronyakatsuki.xyz 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    Which you still need to specifically specify. By default everything still has to be compiled.

    [–] randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 3 hours ago

    That's good then. :)

    [–] mlg@lemmy.world 75 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    Dependencies:

    Old ass library version from 2004

    apt/dnf/pacman: package not found

    library package was last available 15 years ago before it was dropped to move to the next legacy version

    App package was available right up until last year until it was dropped for development inactivity

    Absolutely no one has a compiled version of old ass library

    Attempting to compile old ass library results in 30 other old ass package dependencies

    How in the actual world was the maintainer compiling this up to last year

    [–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 53 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    It worked on their machine

    [–] conicalscientist@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago

    They have old/orphaned dependencies on their machine. It's hanging on a by thread. They have no idea the packages have disappeared years ago. The house of cards is a bit flip away from collapsing.

    [–] djvinniev77@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 hours ago

    Hahah I say this all the time.

    [–] bruhduh@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago

    Why docker was created be like

    [–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 88 points 14 hours ago (5 children)

    Guys I downloaded the github link, and it won't launch as an app, what do? :(

    /j

    [–] KazuchijouNo@lemy.lol 58 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

    You could add '.exe' at the end. It will definitely not work, but you can still do it for a laugh anyways ;)

    [–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 27 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

    Wine: wtf is this shit?

    [–] kubica@fedia.io 12 points 13 hours ago

    Time for an angry bug report.

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 2 points 9 hours ago

    Wine could probably run it

    [–] Waffle@infosec.pub 11 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    Have you tried downloading the AUR? Oh, it's not available in the AUR? What about the flat pack? The package name changed, but it's not available there either. It's an app image, but to get it to work you're going to need to switch your Nvidia drivers to DKMS. OK... So that didn't work, have you tried reinstalling dracut and ffmpeg?

    [–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 13 points 11 hours ago (2 children)

    My favourite of course is "just dual boot"

    The solution to every issue x3

    [–] DickFiasco@lemm.ee 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

    Dual booting is just using containers on bare metal.

    [–] Waffle@infosec.pub 4 points 11 hours ago

    (γƒŽΰ² η›Šΰ² )γƒŽε½‘β”»β”β”»

    [–] Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    Now you're just being silly. Everyone knows that Linux is better than Winblow$$$ because all your programs are available from your app store, and can be installed with a few clicks. You never have to go hunting for random downloads again! πŸ™„

    [–] superkret@feddit.org 7 points 9 hours ago

    If it's not in the AUR, it doesn't have more than 10 users in the world.

    [–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    you gotta click on the blue e on your desktop

    [–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

    You guys have stuff on your desktop?

    [–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
    [–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 1 points 9 hours ago

    Based arrangement

    I prefer to keep my desktop completely empty tho x3

    [–] heavydust@sh.itjust.works 17 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

    Are you a vibe coder?

    [–] TabbsTheBat@pawb.social 21 points 13 hours ago

    I have standards unfortunately

    [–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 9 hours ago

    "STUPID FUCKING SMELLY NERDS"

    [–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 7 points 9 hours ago

    Casual Linux things that get normal people running from the os in fear.

    [–] savvywolf@pawb.social 17 points 12 hours ago

    Unless it's a JavaScript app which uses some random build system (that was popular when they started work on the app but is now outdated) that you need to set up and learn.

    Or it's a Python app that doesn't work because you don't have the right version of python and backwards compatibility is a myth.

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 29 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

    yay

    There is a 99% chance it's in there, and there is an 80% chance it uses the latest version/git HEAD

    [–] RustyNova@lemmy.world 5 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    Yay?

    [–] rtxn@lemmy.world 24 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

    yay, a utility to access the AUR, where users share build scripts instead of binaries. It's just one step above curl | sudo sh in terms of security.

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 7 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

    Except it automates the steps you'd have to take to inspect and edit the script, if needed. Also, PKGBUILDs are much nicer to read than just plain install scripts. And, of course, it actually builds a package, which is then installed, so it's not only tracked but can be updated like the rest of the system.

    [–] copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

    To be fair, that's why they said

    in terms of security.

    [–] 30p87@feddit.org 2 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

    I'd say that yay encourages checking the PKGBUILD or its diff more than the average "curl xy | sudo sh" instruction, but considering most people see yay just as yet another package manager, instead of an AUR helper, that's probably true for most people

    [–] copygirl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago

    That's probably the "just one step above" part. You do have the option to inspect the script you're executing before you do so with curl | sh too, if you know what you're doing. If you don't, then you'd be pretty likely to just skip the prompt from yay as well. (Automatic diffs are nice tho.) Note: I use paru instead so I don't know what yay does.

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    [–] Lembot_0001@lemm.ee 21 points 14 hours ago

    Nobody likes to figure out dependencies. And C++ template errors are sometimes completely crazy.

    [–] notthebees@reddthat.com 6 points 12 hours ago

    And halfway through the compile, it fails.

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