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"We are working to establish a thundering heartbeat for this franchise," the returning WoW creative director said.

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[–] Templa@beehaw.org 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

After watching the Folding Ideas video I was 100% sure I will never come back to this game. Toxiest years of my life. I'm glad for many experiences and friends WoW gave me, but I am really over it and I love being a filthy casual in FFXIV.

[–] AnonStoleMyPants@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)
[–] sandriver@beehaw.org 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I left in February of 2021, but at the time it was competent but unexceptional. Rival Wings and Conquest(?) were the two big battle types, and I think overall Rival Wings was more interesting, while Conquest usually devolved to a round robin rotation of objectives or endless stalemates unless you had a competent caller directing your nation's team. I didn't like it at all, but Rival Wings was always dead outside of events. Rival Wings was like a "MOBA mode" plus vehicles, so a big thing was objective and resource management so you could push an organised vehicle fleet down one of the lanes. Engagements were also typically smaller than in Conquest.

5v5s were very unbalanced but fun for casual play due to job variety, although the high end was being griefed by some notorious hackers around November of last year (which is when I lost touch with the PVP community on Twitter).

In terms of activity levels, I could basically always get a Conquest match or a 5v5 match, but I basically finished my 5v5 achievements and then only ever played Rival Wings when there were enough players to start a match. They've recently introduced a reward track for all PVP, so maybe Rival Wings has finally seen its Revival Wings.

[–] AnonStoleMyPants@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

Thanks, maybe there is something there for pvp then.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can't speak for FFXIV, but if you want pvp in an MMO you might give guild wars 2 a try. It's got 5v5 pvp matches where everyone is on an even playing field. It's available in the free to play version, and you can go into it right after the tutorial if you want, don't even have to do leveling.

There's also a large scale pvp mode called world vs world where you have three teams of hundreds of players fighting over territory. That one uses non-equalized stats so it's an end game thing, but it's a lot of fun!

[–] AnonStoleMyPants@sopuli.xyz 1 points 10 months ago

Yeah I'm aware of gw, just wondering about ffxiv. I always got the idea in my head that pvp doesn't really exist in that game, hence the question.

[–] DmMacniel@feddit.de 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I mean if there is one guy who could do it, it's green jesus, I mean Chris Metzen. I still wont come back though.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 13 points 10 months ago

I fondly remember my wow days and friends. But it doesn't fit into my life any more. It's too all-consuming. Plus, it feels less like an adventure and more like a theme park. Everything is so tidy and precise with carefully measured dopamine hits at regular intervals.

There's no getting back the things I'm nostalgic for. Even if all the people came back and I got back into my guild, I have kids and obligations. I don't want my kids to hear me say something like I can't attend their play because it's raid night, or watch me rush to finish daily quests before bed like any of that shit matters.

I'm still casual friends with some of the folks I met through wow. But I'm done with it.

[–] Telorand@reddthat.com 9 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Sure, Blizzard. And I'm sure Microsoft will keep you around forever, too.

~~Embrace, extend, extinguish~~

[–] ampersandrew@kbin.social 9 points 10 months ago

That's not what EEE is.

[–] optissima@possumpat.io 5 points 10 months ago

WoW will be converted into their mmo department

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Blizz always has great ideas and then falls flat in execution. I say this as a WoW player. It's ok. If they can pull off these ideas, which they absolutely have not proven, then this could be good. I remain skeptical.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

“Fail in execution”

oldest most profitable mmorpg on the market

[–] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemm.ee 9 points 10 months ago

You have a point, but I think WoW succeeds in spite of itself. They promise big things then deliver a fraction. It never lives up to the hype, IMO. I think it's that there's nothing better, and if there was, it'd have to be a LOT better because of sunk cost fallacy. 80% of the reason I play WoW is because I have always played WoW. I like my stuff and friends there.

[–] sandriver@beehaw.org 3 points 10 months ago

Definitely not the oldest, FFXI and EQ are still alive and getting updates, and Anarchy Online is in maintenance mode because it's presumably still turning a profit for Funcom.

[–] Faydaikin@beehaw.org 8 points 10 months ago

Are people still buying these?

I get Blizzard games can be hard to quit, but damn, at least give them a reason to make a new base-game.

[–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 months ago

meltzen brings me back northrend, silithus, quel'thelas, and the titans? i guess im fully back in warcraft!

[–] Wirrvogel@feddit.de 2 points 10 months ago

Whether you are a current player ... or maybe you jumped off the WoW train a few expansions ago, now is the time to come home

Sorry, but I left this abusive relationship years ago for a reason. Not coming back. I am also not sure if multiple expansions in a short time frame will be what the users want that are fine with going back every 2-3 years for a new expansion for three month and quit, if there is not enough time inbetween to forget why they stopped playing. Just saying.

And for the story side of things, they have messed up everything to the point that I do not even want to read about the story anymore. I am just done with the world and the lore and the graphics. There are so many interesting worlds and ideas out there, so many great games. I have fond memories of the friends I made ingame, but I also regret the massive amount of time I spent in one single game. It wasn't healthy for me.