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[–] darkghosthunter@lemmy.ml 56 points 1 year ago (4 children)

This could backfire into something Google don’t want: everyone using adblockers.

Imagine everyone installing adblockers just to skip YouTube’s obnoxious ad rolls, just to also block most Internet ads.

Suddenly, having an adblocker becomes mainstream like wearing socks.

[–] grooving@lemmy.studio 24 points 1 year ago

You guys are wearing socks?!

[–] ISOmorph@feddit.de 21 points 1 year ago

I was curious and latest statistics show 43% of users between 16 and 24 use ad blockers. We're already at bra level of mainstreamyness.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 year ago

No, it couldn't. People who didn't use adblockers aren't going to suddenly start using them just because YouTube started blocking adblockers. People who didn't use adblockers aren't impacted at all, nothing has changed for them.

[–] nous@programming.dev 7 points 1 year ago

I don't see how? This is targeting people already using ad blockers. People not already using them should not see any difference in service so why would they change their behaviour? At most a mild rise of awareness, though I bet most people following these news stories are also already running ad blockers. It is all the other aggressive shit they are doing with ads that will turn people towards ad blockers/premium.

[–] Pons_Aelius@kbin.social 47 points 1 year ago (3 children)

ublock origion, if anyone needs to know which one to use...

[–] ijeff@lemdro.id 39 points 1 year ago

unlock origin

I prefer uBlock Origin myself.

[–] pornrush@lemmynsfw.com 10 points 1 year ago

Adnauseam if you want to add a layer of fuck you on top of it.

[–] ExLisper@linux.community 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It doesn't say more people overall use ad blockers. It says people that were already using them are now switching between different extensions. Let's wait and see if this increases Firefox's market share. This could be the real good outcome of all this.

[–] xtapa@feddit.de 18 points 1 year ago

But people who don't use adblockers aren't the target if anti adblock stuff in the first place.

[–] NightOwl@lemmy.one 43 points 1 year ago (3 children)

It pushed me more towards degoogling. Was already using newpipe on Android and ignoring the YouTube app, and now I'm on freetube on desktop. No need for Google account anymore to look at the feed I want.

[–] conorab@lemmy.conorab.com 7 points 1 year ago

Invidious has been a saviour for me on mobile. The ads were so painfully long. To make it worse, I’d use YouTube to help fall asleep, adjust it to the right volume, then BAM! Loud advert. I didn’t use an ad blocker on PC for ages because I get that bandwidth is expensive as hell, but they really started taking the piss and I gave up.

[–] Pantherina@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

freetube uses Electron = Chromium ;D

[–] thingsiplay@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

At the moment, I am in a hybrid state. I also use Indivious to watch the videos, but I still use the subscription view of YouTube to see what video is new. I have 145 subscriptions. I installed a new addon Redirector, which you can guess what it does, and it redirects each new tab to an Indivious instance if it's a YouTube video page. So YouTube thinks I stopped watching videos at the moment. Sometimes I forget to middle click instead and get reminded how bad the ads are.

The reason I am doing that is, because I feared Google could delete my account, if I keep blocking ads with uBlock Origin. It probably never happened to anyone, but the uncertainty was too high to risk for me, as I need this account for other things. Also sometimes I want to like or comment on the video too.

[–] drkt@feddit.dk 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You can plop a youtube channel URL into an RSS reader and it's a valid RSS. You don't need a Google account in that case, but of course Google could just stop supporting RSS at any point.

[–] thingsiplay@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

That's interesting! I use RSS (and love it) and never tried this on YouTube. You know what, this is actually amazing! Right now I am visiting some channels which I do not want to miss content on and add as RSS News. Thank you for this!

[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The day i remove my adblocker is the day... ah who am i kidding, i will never uninstall my adblocker.

[–] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 12 points 1 year ago (8 children)

t doesn’t say more people overall use ad blockers. It says people that were already using them are now switching between different extensions. Let’s wait and see if this increases Firefox’s market share. This could be the real good outcome of all this.

That's literally the first thing after I install any new system.

  • get firefox on a stick so I don't have to open deprecated explorer or have to download Edge
  • install firefox, get ad blocker extension
  • then remove/turn off all the recommended shit that are now embedded to your start menu and task bar and lock screen. (I wish there is a github FOSS script that does this for new windows builds. )

I will abandon windows when the games can all be played on Linux properly.

[–] skillful_garbage@beehaw.org 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I will abandon windows when the games can all be played on Linux properly.

I feel you there. I'm just about at that point, although I also need better support for music software (FL studio, VSTs, etc) and hardware before I can fully switch.

[–] amzd@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

quick google search implies that FL Studio "works flawlessly" on linux through wine (which you also use for video games) 5 years ago already. https://jstaf.github.io/posts/flstudio-on-linux/

[–] aksdb@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wish there is a github FOSS script that does this for new windows builds.

https://github.com/topics/windows-11-debloat

[–] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 5 points 1 year ago

Dude, thanks for this.

[–] perishthethought@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I will abandon windows when the games can all be played on Linux properly

Sooo.... today? Sweet! Welcome to the club! :)

[–] PenguinTD@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Is there a compatibility list and performance difference?

I have games that are not from steam so they will need to be able to run as well.(and games that requires their launcher, like EA/Ubisoft. Oh and some of them have denuvo.)

How about other driver functions(recording game clips, instant replay buffers) that was provided on windows drivers?

I am planning a new build(so many new hardware's) so if all above are possible and don't need some arcane knowledge (like suddenly you need to upgrade your libc and install new kernels and fuck around with driver compatibility) then consider me in.

What/where would be the guide and distro to start with?

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[–] ChrissieWF@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 year ago

Sadly, Fortnite doesn't run on Linux. EAC has Linux support in general but Epic doesn't it for Fortnite...
Was one of the first things I tried on my Steamdeck after installing HeroicLauncher. Would have been nice with the gyro.

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[–] tesseract@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

The real villainy here is that Google is trying to project this practice as stealing. They have started dictating what you can or can't do on your system (this has parallels with their crooked WEI efforts).

Just in case you are worried about the moral implications of using ad blockers on YouTube, remember this - they didn't become the video hosting monopoly by playing fair. They waited till all their competitors were dead, to start demanding money and aggressively pushing ads. If you are worried about the income of the creators, please pay them directly - don't feed a false 'dont-be-evil' corporation.

[–] skillful_garbage@beehaw.org 31 points 1 year ago

Some users are even going as far as to switch to a new browser.

As someone who changes browsers regularly on a whim, I love how big of a deal this is to the average person.

[–] grill@thelemmy.club 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah, but I'm sure a lot of people just bought youtube premium. I know my friend did...stupid idiot.

[–] Eggyhead@kbin.social 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I wonder how business owners feel about their advertisements being weaponized to push people toward subscription plans that eliminate advertisements.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Google doesn't give a shit what their advertisers think. It's not a "please buy our ads" situation, it's a "where else would you advertise online, you stupid fuck?" type of situation.

[–] tesseract@beehaw.org 2 points 1 year ago

Google reached that position by keeping the platform pleasant till no one else was left standing. That should be an antitrust activity in any free market. Remember this when you see Google gaslighting you about the moral implications of using adblocks.

[–] nous@programming.dev 8 points 1 year ago

People that were running ad blockers were not seeing ads and business owners were not paying for those blocked ads. So I don't see why they would care at all.

[–] reric88@beehaw.org 3 points 1 year ago

I've had YouTube premium from the inception of their subscription model prior to/at the beginning of YouTube red, as I initially had a paid Google music subscription.

Personally, there isn't a better option for the amount of hassle involved in my opinion. It's a family account, and managing so many people's YouTube experiences on at least a dozen different devices would be a nightmare I don't want to think about. (Multiple of each TV's, Roku's, Android phones, iPhones, pc's, etc)

This isn't really relevant to your friend, it is quite silly when it's just one person not willing to do it for just themselves.

[–] Forcen@lemmy.one 21 points 1 year ago

Only reason they are seeing so many uninstalls is because ublock origin is the big one that works and that requires uninstalling other blockers to get it to not be detected.

Ublock origin doesn't track uninstalls but it has gained quite a few users in the last 8 days

https://web.archive.org/web/20231027074108/https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/

vs

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/ublock-origin/

[–] algorithmae@lemmy.one 13 points 1 year ago

I'm shocked I tell you. Shocked! Who could have seen this coming!?

[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 9 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It pushed me to buy grayjay which is allowing me to easily keep up with people off youtube. I just wish that grayjay had a web app.

[–] dept@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 year ago

my problem with grayjay is that it really wants to give me stuff from the trending tab even though it's supposed to be subscriptions only

[–] thingsiplay@kbin.social 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Well, well, well, Google. I told you.
This is only 20% of our power. We are not even Super Saiyan yet.

[–] DarkenLM@kbin.social 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

And equally, Google is yet to use the big guns they have. Don't get me wrong, I hate Google with a passion, but they have way too much power over the internet for us to leave even a dent on their plans.

[–] Salvo@aussie.zone 4 points 1 year ago

They have a lot of power, but that power is tied by goodwill.

Right now they are cashing in all that goodwill with price increases, more onerous privacy invasion and “sponsored” links in lieu of actually accurate search results.

[–] mephiska@artemis.camp 4 points 1 year ago

Google: it’s over 9000!

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