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Only one item can be delivered at a time. It can’t weigh more than 5 pounds. It can’t be too big. It can’t be something breakable, since the drone drops it from 12 feet. The drones can’t fly when it is too hot or too windy or too rainy.

You need to be home to put out the landing target and to make sure that a porch pirate doesn’t make off with your item or that it doesn’t roll into the street (which happened once to Lord and Silverman). But your car can’t be in the driveway. Letting the drone land in the backyard would avoid some of these problems, but not if there are trees.

Amazon has also warned customers that drone delivery is unavailable during periods of high demand for drone delivery.

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[–] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 161 points 10 months ago (5 children)

As someone who frequently orders one can of soup, this is excellent news.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 103 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Dropping a can of soup 12ft onto a driveway seems bad for the can and for the driveway.

[–] Darkassassin07@lemmy.ca 68 points 10 months ago

Self-opening soup can

[–] Player2@sopuli.xyz 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Just give it a tiny parachute

[–] FilthyHands@sh.itjust.works 29 points 10 months ago

Operation Gumbo Drop

[–] zephr_c@lemm.ee 25 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I'm pretty sure a twelve foot drop onto concrete isn't good for a can of soup. Maybe it'd work for a T-shirt?

[–] FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago

Or a beer... As long as it's Lite Beer!

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[–] Son_of_dad@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

man killed by falling soup can which he ordered on Amazon

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[–] BrianTheeBiscuiteer@lemmy.world 75 points 10 months ago (54 children)

Reminds me of an insurance company that wanted to use drones to survey roof damage and in the long run they decided it was overall better to just use a camera on a long ass stick.

[–] snowe@programming.dev 67 points 10 months ago

Just so you know, companies already use drones for roof surveys. I work for sunrun and we use them to analyze roofs for solar installations and whether roofs need to be fixed before hand.

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[–] Whelks_chance@lemmy.world 57 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Ok sure, there's limitations. So what percentage of their current deliveries are actually possible with drones? If it's above 0%, then there's an opportunity.

Beyond that it's a finance/ risk/ reward/ regulation issue.

Imagine a van which drives into a suburban housing estate and instead of parking individually at different houses for 5-10 mins each, spends less than 5 mins prepping a set of drones which take off from the roof of the van and return in minutes.

It saves time and fuel. It doesn't work everywhere, but it doesn't need to.

In fact it could be the same van. Do deliveries exactly as normal, and use a drone for the last half mile when convenient. It's not either/or.

[–] corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca 41 points 10 months ago (2 children)

The big win, I hear, is the massively rural areas;farms and cabins.

The truck can apparently launch two drones at a time, and they save time and fuel -- and don't present a driving hazard for a panel van which now needs to turn around in a potentially winding driveway. Then the truck moves on to the next stopping point when all drones are back.

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[–] yiliu@informis.land 26 points 10 months ago

Yeah, "small and below 5 lbs" describes like 90+% of Amazon deliveries.

[–] Cheesus@lemmy.world 43 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I remember people were hyped when they announced on Thanksgiving 2012 that drone delivery service was right around the corner. Brilliant marketing from them because people were hyped.

[–] Dettweiler42@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago

Turns out the FAA is that corner

[–] rtxn@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I remember people being hyped about netting them or shooting them out of the sky.

[–] mlg@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago

I would like to take this time to thank the slow government FAA for preventing Amazon from clogging up the airspace with crappy drones and preventing a stupid system from taking off.

Aside from all the functional downsides, I'd expect these to go the way of Tesla when hitting a larger scale. Lawsuits and traffic incidents.

[–] histic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I feel this could actually work fairly well in smaller rural/suburban communities

[–] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 15 points 10 months ago (10 children)

Maybe if they used bigger craft with larger payload capacity and longer range

[–] lipilee@feddit.nl 27 points 10 months ago

And maybe that craft could have wheels instead of rotors to mitigate the rain/wind problems... i think we might be on to something here!

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[–] perviouslyiner@lemm.ee 32 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Another more successful operation in Rwanda and Ghana is https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zipline_(drone_delivery_company) delivering 1.8kg over 300km and dropped by parachute.

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 17 points 10 months ago

That works for special use cases in rural environments. They use drones for mail delivery on some German islands, for instance. As a mainstream delivery option in urban environments this is just laughably impractical and that has been very obvious from day one.

[–] ours@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

It's certainly more useful in locations with insufficient infrastructure.

[–] uriel238@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Noise is absolutely a concern for flying things. The reasons we don't yet have flying cars is not because they're too expensive, but because they're too loud. And this is specifically why the FAA won't let me commute to work in an ultralight.

The police want Bladerunner spinners so bad they can taste it. And the reason they can't have them — or more helicopters — is the noise.

[–] SlopppyEngineer@discuss.tchncs.de 35 points 10 months ago (2 children)

That's not the only reason why flying cars haven't arrived. Getting a license to fly is about the price of a new car. Bad weather is no flying. Air Traffic Control can't handle thousands of commuters. Flying cars are pretty big so parking is going to be even more of an issue.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Also, imagine drunk flyers in bad weather.

Ground traffic collisions can also cause collateral damage, but more often than not those are constrained to the roads or their immediate vicinity where not many people live. An aerial collision may happen above residential areas, and even slight fender benders may mean a double crash (...on little Timmy mowing the lawn).

Also, there's no air bag in the world that can save you in a crash.

Road traffic is easy to direct and regulate with road signs, lanes, lights, painted lines. Good luck herding cats a hundred (hundreds of) yards above ground. It's not a huge problem with planes because there are not as many of them and they fly at vastly different altitudes. Not the case with personal flying cars.

With ground traffic, you only need two blinkers (or two sets). Some drivers even struggle with using that two properly. Good luck for getting them to use more.

And that's just the top of my head, I'm sure there are like 2634 other reasons.

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[–] lorty@lemmy.ml 16 points 10 months ago

The average person can barely drive without murdering someone. Flying is even more complex than that, the noise is just a small problem compqred to that.

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[–] Asudox@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Great, it drops the package from 2 meters.

[–] BattleScarredFox@lemmy.world 28 points 10 months ago

That's an improvement over the delivery drivers that yeet my package over my fence

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

12 feet is more like 3.5-4

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[–] Mojojojo1993@lemmy.world 25 points 10 months ago

Welcome to the future

[–] space@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 10 months ago (6 children)

It's obvious that autonomous drones are more difficult to create than they seem... I think delivery robots that go on the ground are much safer and more feasible. They can carry heavier packages, they are less dangerous and can travel at less dangerous speeds.

[–] Wirrvogel@feddit.de 9 points 10 months ago (3 children)

... and they can get robbed or kicked, their sensors sprayed shut... and repair costs a fortune. I don't think delivery without a human makes much sense, maybe except for a drone that delivers to the Australian outback or a small island at the German coast.

They want desperately to cut delivery cost by taking out the human they have to pay for it to do the work. To do so they spent billions they could have used to pay these people a decent wage and hire more of them. It is dumb.

[–] pinkdrunkenelephants@lemmy.cafe 12 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Don't those same issues apply to humans though? You can beat up or kill a human delivery driver and take everything in the truck just as easily as you could with a hypothetical robot.

[–] xX_fnord_Xx@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

This is very true, but every porch pirate isn't a moral free tweaker willing to do whatever it takes to score. I think the average down on their luck schmuck would have fewer qualms vandalizing an automated delivery system.

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[–] FapFlop@lemmy.world 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I’m just sitting here thinking personal home delivery maybe isn’t the most sustainable thing in the world.

Perhaps we could invest the massive amounts of money that it takes to deliver goods to homes into better transit and post offices that don’t look like crap.

[–] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago

We've had mail delivery for what, 200 years? We used to have (and some places still do) have milk and vegetable deliveries. It's not even that expensive.

I had diaper pickup and laundry service a few years ago, which was amazing. Well worth the $.

[–] Zealousideal_Fox900@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

If I'm honest it really is not at all surprising.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 16 points 10 months ago (14 children)

Hyperloop 2.0.

Delivering something by air is the least efficient way to do so, unless it's Avdiivka and you deliver a grenade. Yeah, making them now is cheap (and we overproduce these unrecycleable toys), but what the upsides of using them instead of, like, land drones, or human workers, or some rail-system? It's cool and fancy the first time you order it, but what's the reason behind it other than our entertainment? Why not to make a delivery guy shoot fireworks once they are here - as enjoyable, and as chinese as these drones.

Why we want to produce this junk in the first place? And aren't we afraid this shit records close-ups of each property itflies over?

[–] Flipper@feddit.de 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are places delivery with drones makes a lot of sense and is the best way to do it. It depends what the most important metric is.

In an African country they are delivering medicin and bloodbaths with a drone plane to hospitals that need them for emergencys. That way they only need to have one central stock of these supply's that can be quickly dispatched. Driving wouldn't be an option that would take several hours over bad roads. Veritasium did a video about it.

For Amazon deliveries it makes no sense at all.

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[–] ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I'm curious why the limit is one item. If the drone can carry 5 pounds, why can't they put 5 pounds of stuff in the box?

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[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

it's just advertising it's not really meant to be practical you're advertising for them good job

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I'm not sure how 'Amazon failed at doing something they promised and ended up with a shitty result' advertises them. That's like saying telling people that McDonalds food is full of E. Coli is an advertisement for McDonalds.

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[–] Elliott@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Maybe the end game is something far more sinister and this is a good way to iron out the bugs.

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