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I actually think Bryce has been just fine given the state of the team. Yes, Stroud is a fucking baller and should have been taken first, but I don’t think Bryce was a bad pick at all.

Yes, it’s too early. We are only halfway through year 1.

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Hey man, I’m sure this post is only still up because the mods are eating lunch.

I felt that way at the draft. Stroud was my QB1 but I still was and am high on Young. He’ll be fine you can’t judge too harshly off of a rookie year

Yes. It honestly seems like sports fans knowingly fall victim to recency bias.

Oh good this thread again.

Yes. It is.

Yes, at various points it looked like Burrow over Herbert was an error and that Tua would be a bust. All three have gone on to be top level QBs.

Allen looked terrible until his 3rd season. Hurts was poor to start with too.

I thought coming out of college that Stroud had a better shot at becoming great, but yeah, give them both until this time next year to make an educated projection.

It is too early. They’re rookies. Look at the takes on Goff vs Wentz in 2016. Narratives change fast.

It was always a mistake, they definitely dropped the ball.

Is it too early? Sure. But its PROBABLY a fumble not taking Stroud. Bryces coach and team sucks, but its not like Stroud has a great OL or weapons either and he just looks fantastic on tape.

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I will give Bryce some credit, hes looking better and better hes doing what he can with what he has.

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The problem is people want to believe that a small QB with physical limitations can do it in the NFL because they did it in college and its just not the case. You dont trade up like that to take a guy with physical limitations. Bryce is going to always have issues pushing the ball downfield and making some of the throws because he isnt as strong as someone like Richardson, Levis or Stroud who CAN make every throw.

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They shouldve taken Richardson or Stroud. Bryce is nice but is he going to end up being that Justin Herbert/JoeBurrow/Josh Allen for your team? Doubt it.

Things can change quickly, so we will see. Right now it MAYBE looks that way but as everyone else in the comments is saying it’s way too early to really judge.

I will say Stroud already looks like a stud. But that doesn’t mean Bryce Young can’t still be good or even very good.

You have an opinion on how the Panthers drafted yet admitted you haven't watched them?

Why have a thesis on a subject you've done zero research on?

It's early but Stroud was my QB1 even before the Georgia game and I would be lying if I said I don't feel vindicated

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3 seasons to properly evaluate and build around a QB. Some of y'all are out of your minds.

Wild how people want to end a guys career after 9 games, if you made a mistake on the 9th day of a job and everyone in the company started posting online about how they should fire you no one would ever have a career

Too early… but let’s be honest how often is the first overall pick the best QB in the draft?

Manning and Lawrence are the only clear cuts that come to mind… the rest are either debatably the best but inconclusive (Burrow vs Herbert/Tua/Hurts or Newton vs Dalton) or were bad but won by default.

QB success is way more about supporting cast, scheme fit, and player/coach cohesion. All things that are indicative to the organization, not player.

Not to say HOU is dripping with supporting cast… but still better then CAR

If Bryce is as good as he was advertised to be, then they fumbled the coaching hire. I keep hearing that Reich likes tall QBs and Bryce would play into Reich's weakness.

Also, I think they fumbled the trade to get the #1 pick. Where Houston was building for Stroud, Carolina was destroying for Bryce. "Let's get rid of everything that got us 7 wins last year." That's a sound strategy.

As a fan of the Jets, who are masters of bad quarterback drafting, I would say it is too early yet.

The one thing I don’t like that Carolina did was move up to draft a QB #1, giving up a lot of assets, without having a good line and weapons for Young when he got there.

If I was a GM I would have traded any assets on the defensive side, even someone valuable like Burns, just to make sure the new QB has the weapons and protection to develop.

Build the offense around your QB, then worry about building a good defense to start winning games.