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Similar to Mastodon's spikes last year, it seems. Anyways, there is data to think about. Source

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[–] Chocrates@lemmy.world 335 points 1 year ago (19 children)

I feel like that is more or less to be expected. A ton of people found Lemmy during the reddit protests. Now that the protests are gone and Lemmy has had its growing pains some users are leaving, going back to reddit or other places. If we keep using it and making content users will grow organically.

Lemmy is having an identity crisis of sorts. It was built to be decentralized yet we (users) seem to want to centralize everything and we all go to a few of the largest instances.

[–] requiem@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I don’t think it’s about a craving for centralisation but for newcomers and people still learning the core ideas about decentralisation it’s about a promise of more active engagement and more varied content.

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[–] dmmeyournudes@lemmy.world 131 points 1 year ago (27 children)

until personal interest groups are populated people will not use this site. its basically 1 big meme sub right now with some tech and politics sprinkled on top.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago (3 children)

This is honestly it.

I like the site, I want to use it, I want to encourage others to use it, but I'm getting tired of only talking about the same things here.

Maybe we need to start encouraging people to post rather than just expecting them to.

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[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

It feels like it's mainly talking one way or another about Reddit, or describing how one of the 3P apps is now available for Lemmy. The content is super stale, but it will grow. Fuck, Reddit back in the day was not exactly the thriving metropolis it was maybe six or so years ago. And reddit peaked and came down to how it exists today. So it'll take time.

That being said, I don't check Lemmy anywhere near as frequently as I did Reddit, and mainly because the subs I frequented most have smaller footprints here for now. Which is what you said, but in fewer words.

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[–] platysalty@kbin.social 119 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Some dropoff after initial hype is normal. Now we just continue as usual until reddit pisses people off again.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

We have to wait until tomorrow?

[–] what_is_a_name@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

There are also conscious efforts to weed out bots and other measures that try to remove potential cancer from spreading.

There was a post recently that outlined bot weeding efforts on a couple dozen instances that tanked user number by something like 1/5 - clearly visible on graphs.

Lemmy’s doing great. Even if plenty small communities are still not big enough here.

[–] _bug0ut@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago (5 children)

exactly this right here. we saw the same phenomenon with threads and mastodon before it inre twitter annoying its userbase. depending on how engaged each wave of incoming users ends up, i'd guess you could expect it to look something like:

  • spike
  • drop off
  • plateau
  • spike
  • drop off
  • plateau above the last plateau
  • etc etc

sometimes the drop off is really bad. sometimes its just people getting bored with the initial hype while others stay. rinse and repeat until the platform succeeds or dies.

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[–] Fizz@lemmy.nz 98 points 1 year ago (14 children)

I'm to tired to make quality posts. Props to the people that can do that every day. Best I got is a few mildly opinionated comments.

[–] cRazi_man@lemm.ee 72 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

Even lurkers are still part of the community.

I started out looking for an exact replacement for Reddit (where I mostly lurk). Initially I thought the lack of content and traffic on Lemmy was a bad thing, but I now see it as early days of a community and lack of content means I have a chance to make a post or comment that is valued and gets engagement from other users. Reddit was so mature that anything I wanted to post was either already there, not welcome or buried under an ocean of other content/comments. If you use both you could even find good content on Reddit to crosspost on Lemmy.

It's quite nice being part of a small community now. Even just an up/down vote from you will be worth more here. It's great.

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[–] jesterraiin@lemmy.world 79 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Well, to keep a user is way harder than to attract his attention.

I think that the key differences between this platform(s) and the more known alternatives are part of the problem - people are very dumb these days and lazy. Often the first reaction to something new and not working in the expected way is to skip it, or demand the solution, rather than look around, try different approach and such.

I feel like I'm witnessing Diaspora 2.0 effect...

[–] monobot@lemmy.ml 19 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Yes, most people give up as soon as something does not work first time.

Maybe there are enough of us to be enough abd to fix those annoying little things that make lemmy complicated to use.

A lot if issues got resolved, apps are here,it is getting better fast.

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 65 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I'm not too worried. Graphs dont only go up. :)

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[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago (3 children)

FYI, Lemmy doesn’t count lurkers as active users. Here’s how Lemmy counts active users:

An active user is someone who has posted or commented on our instance or community within the last given time frame. For site counts, only local users are counted. For community counts, federated users are included.

https://join-lemmy.org/docs/contributors/07-ranking-algo.html

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[–] agarithm@lemmy.ca 55 points 1 year ago (4 children)

Joined today. I’ll likely just lurk in the background…

[–] GiddyGap@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago

They said while commenting...

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[–] Temperche@feddit.de 52 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Also, this graph does not take into account kbin which is essentially the same kind of software as lemmy but tracked seperately. Better data can be found here: https://fedidb.org/current-events/threadiverse

Also, instance hopping and users registering on multiple instances before picking only one/being active on only once may be an explanation.

[–] Coelacanth@feddit.nu 47 points 1 year ago (10 children)

Also worth noting is Lemmy only counts posts/comments as "active users". Lurkers who only read and up/downvote aren't counted.

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[–] Lazylazycat@lemmy.world 50 points 1 year ago (6 children)

Lemmy.world has been down a lot, I've been trying to use it but half the times I've logged on it's been down. So that might be part of it?

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[–] dynamojoe@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I'm generally a lurker so here. I posted.

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[–] daftwerder@lemm.ee 43 points 1 year ago (5 children)

As a lurker I mostly just vote. But gotta post every once in a while to add to active users stat!

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[–] s4if@lemmy.my.id 41 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No worries, Lemmy is alive. Lemmy and Fediverse in general is better to grow organically.

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[–] Historical_General@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago (8 children)

Some people might have made multiple accounts and chosen one possibly?

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[–] STRIKINGdebate2@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago (3 children)

For some the novelty of lemmy dropped pretty quickly. Most reddit users which make up a huge chunk of lemmy users would go days if not, weeks without commenting or posting. You kinda have to factor in that a lot of people are lemmy lurkers that will comment or post once they find something that interests them.

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[–] Dramachad@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago (3 children)

can't maintain 90% uptime

why are we losing users?

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[–] mwguy@infosec.pub 37 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Lemmy needs a middle logical layer to really take off. If a local server moderats it as such, the default view for say /c/technology shouldn't be slit across a dozen instances. Instead it should be merged into one view.

Without it you have a bunch of largely stagnant communities.

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[–] potopato@lemm.ee 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

There's also people that create multiple accounts in different instances and end up using just one.

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[–] clmbmb@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I don't understand why people have expectations from a young platform like it's supposed to be the new reddit/facebook all of a sudden. I lived through the digg->reddit move and believe me, it was worse than what we see on lemmy sometimes. Let it grow and it will have a chance. Offer help when you think some communities aren't correctly moderated or when you think you have better ideas. People usually will try to help (not all the time).

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[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I'm sticking with it for now. Reddit can piss off. The Spez shit was just the last straw for me after a lot of other disappointing shit in recent times.

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[–] ThirdWorldOrder@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Reddit is going to keep trying dumb methods to monetize or annoy their user base. Digg did a similar thing. The people will slowly get more and more annoyed and the content here will increase. It’s just a waiting game and federated services are the future.

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[–] TheMadnessKing@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is expected that there are corrections in numbers after a huge spike. The bigger goal will be to sustain this community.

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[–] administrator@lemmy.pro 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude I was away on vacation chill. :-)

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[–] gunpachi@lemmings.world 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

For the last month and a half, I have not used reddit at all. Lemmy has most of the communities that I was a part of.

But I get that, some niche subreddits still don't have communities here on lemmy. A few of my friends, stopped using lemmy because it didn't have the subs they were active in.

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[–] LemmyWinks666@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago

It'll hit equilibrium eventually. Not like this is something unusual for a platform that's making the rounds as the new and exciting thing.

[–] admirdee@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Joined few days ago after sync released, thou I'm boost user at reddit before I will stay here no matter what. I'm already done with reddit and their trash app.. Can't wait boost for lemmy to release.

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[–] Herdat@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Because you like numbers i reply. Now it's going up by one active user

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[–] nostradiel@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago (10 children)

The problem with lemmy is that it's not 100% stable. I like it more than Reddit but at least 20% of time lemmy is overloaded, down, not refreshing or else.

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[–] owatnext@lemmy.world 22 points 1 year ago (3 children)

My biggest issue is that at least two out of three times I go to browse/post/comment on lemmy.world, the server is down. I have no clue the actual up time, maybe I am just unlucky. But I am considering migrating my main account to another server.

My alt's server has never experienced this much issue. Hopefully the devs add a migrate function.

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[–] auntbutters@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Sadly, there's just not a critical mass of users in most of the communities I'm interested in. I pop in here every once in a while to see what's going on, but it's currently lacking the diversity of content that you get on Reddit. I'm still rooting for it to succeed.

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[–] electrosphere@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Might as well post here as my first one. Hi, Lemmy. :)

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[–] vidumec@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I'm just gonna leave this post here, for statistics.

Joined Lemmy today and find it kinda refreshing and reminding me of the old days when web was small yet varied.

Also really dig the web interface, especially the vaporwave-light theme :D

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 20 points 1 year ago (2 children)

“Chart go down” isn’t necessarily bad.

For example, this could be due to general disinterest, or it could be from troll removal/defederation too, no?

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[–] mo_lave@reddthat.com 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

With the fediverse known for its opposition to infinite growth, this feels ironic

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