If you actually read the article, you see that this problem is 100% solvable if you use a VPN.
this post was submitted on 10 Nov 2023
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That's what I understood too, but I thought I was wrong since this group can not be that stupid.
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This is for the Netherlands, but it’s about the anti-piracy group not allowing defeats in court on the basis of GDPR and ISP refusal get in the way of a good harassment.
Good read if you want higher blood pressure.
What I don’t understand is how an IP address used as an identity? If you have CG-NAT there’s a good chance you share your IP with 5-6 other people (even more possibly). Alternatively you can say I keep my WiFi open for guests so anyone can walk by my house and torrent on my IP (idk NL law but maybe the court will consider this negligence)
People behind cgnat is probably less likely to seed and thus less likely to get their IP address logged by these outfits. That's just my pet theory though, not sure how to confirm it. Anyone ever heard of someone behind cgnat and still got the love letter?
My ISP uses CGNAT but I have a public static IP from them. 10+ years of heavy usage and not a single letter.
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Even if they do make it to court; how do they plan on translating an IP address into the ID of the actual infringer? (not the ISP subscriber, they can't be assumed to be the same, particularly in court)
Just because I pay for my families internet connection doesn't make me responsible, culpable, or even aware of their activities. Even less so now that I'm not going to receive any notice of potentially illicit activity.
If they could haul people into court based on just an IP and get somewhere useful, they'd have done it hundreds of thousands of times over already.
One thing I always find curious is these "rights holders" assuming a 100% sales conversion from piracy when, in reality, it's probably closer to 1-10%
Plus, there are studies that show piracy can actually be a positive factor for sales in some cases.
I can see that - if you're pirating you'll just take anything because there's no cost, but if you're buying something it has to be worth it.
I doubt it's even positive.
Many copyright holders believe that if they’re able to communicate with pirates, a proportion will change their behavior.
Yes, they will probably be more careful next time
When the day comes that Brein starts sending notices to pirates, these pirates will just move to Newsgroups and VPNs.
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Dutch company sends pirates dick pics with ominous warnings as a means of fearmongering for the pirates
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Use a VPN. Keep Sailing.
Use a multi hop VPN that doesn't advertise next to raid shadow legends
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BREIN. There's an evil villain name if I ever saw one.
If fact, I think the bad guy from Half-Life 2 had that name.
Fuck this group with an engorged cactus. Pieces of shit.
I suspect this is not going to go well when they find poor people who torrent for the community and try to squeeze them for blood in the courts, or find that an academic server is used to seed in it's idle time.
This figured into the cruel, heartless reputations of the MPA and RIAA that persist to this day.
Have the MPA and RIAA stopped being cruel and heartless?
They've turned away from suing pirates directly for alleged costs, because telling a little girl she owes you thousands for downloading a song is really not a good look.
So they've been trying to convince the ISPs to deny service to people, but the ISPs don't want to piss off their own customers (any more than they already do with hidden fees and crappy service).
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Yeah, it says that they're all "well we would have rather do it the other way for your sakes" but the fact is that if they thought they could reliably obtain money this way they'd be doing it already. A ton of legal fees are going to be wasted pursuing people they can't catch for one reason or another, meaning that their desire to make the pirates pay their costs isn't going to work as reliably as they'd want.
Can someone TL;DR the actual "worse" thing?
They will skip the notice via proxy (your ISP passing a notice to you without identifying you to the claimant) and go straight to court to have the ISP forced to provide the ID of the subscriber for a specific IP observed to be active torrenting copyrighted materials.
Then they'll attempt to recover those court costs from that subscriber as well as sue them for the original copyright infringement.
I think they'll have quite an uphill battle with that approach, particularly when trying to prove the subscriber to an internet connection is also responsible for, let alone aware of, the alleged infringement. If it was that easy, they wouldn't have bothered with notices to begin with.
Yeah this happened during the Napster era and it was so incredibly unpopular and unsympathetic with the general public that it didn't continue after a while. Suing a single mom on food stamps for thousands of dollars because her teenage son downloaded a game one time is a truly abominable look for a company.
Dutch anti-piracy group BREIN
How sad do you have to be
imagine if they spent half as much time going after abusers or billionaire tax cheats as they do people who download game of thrones from seven years ago.
BRB switching my VPN location to the fucking NETHERLANDS
I watched a thing about copyright and trademark enforcement where the corporate organization was somehow able to gather a team of 50 police at tax payer expense and march them into a Sunday market in order to capture and shut down market stores selling fake knockoffs. You could see how wildly unpopular it was with the entire crowd around them where some shoppers even continued browsing and trying to purchase goods from the shut down stores even with cops standing right there trying to make the crowd move on.
Copyright and trademark infringement against multi-billionare companies with continuous record profits is seen as a victimless "crime" at best by the vast majority of people, even reasonably well off people too. The only repercussion if you're "caught" should be just paying the actual construction/reproduction cost of the item which is pennies, they weren't going to make this sale at their ridiculous retail price in the first place and their real losses are miniscule at best.
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We really need to push for the use of i2p for torrenting. Given that the the offer of VPNs with port forwarding that are decent is little and decreasing every year.
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