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[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

The French public would have a called a general strike at minimum while the AmeriKans take it in the ass.

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Again lol. U guys have not realized that two party system does not work ...

[–] malin@thelemmy.club 6 points 1 hour ago

It's working exactly as intended.

[–] ThomasLadder_69@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago
[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 57 points 7 hours ago (3 children)

Of course, this is going to affect the working class first and worst. But stay with me here.

My wife and I are what you'd call upper middle class. Thanks to our college education, union jobs in public agencies, and mostly being smart with money, our assets are not meager.

Are you like me? Don't think you're exempt. They're coming for our assets too. They want all of us living paycheck to paycheck, begging our employers to not fire us.

What I'm saying is, the class struggle is everyone's struggle. If you're not a billionaire, you're at risk. Act like it.

[–] Dozzi92@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (3 children)

The #1 issue for all of us is Us versus Them. That's it. There's 1000 of them and 350 million of us.

[–] head_socj@midwest.social 1 points 29 minutes ago

But what will you do when the rest of the world's working poor turns around and suddenly you're "them"

[–] tfm@europe.pub 4 points 1 hour ago

There are about 8 billion of us

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago) (1 children)

It is, but the narrative they want it “us vs immigrants”. Think of how long they’ve been rage baiting people with this, it’s nuts.

Keep focus, it’s the 1%.

[–] CatDogL0ver@lemmy.world 11 points 5 hours ago

Exactly. I don't think I am poor but in there eyes, I am dirt poor. Anyone can't afford a seat at their table are at peril.

[–] CircaV@lemmy.ca 20 points 8 hours ago
[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 29 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Hey, yanks, until your centre right party (the Democrats) is willing to go all in and run candidates at all levels of government on the slogan of "The Largest Downward Transfer of Wealth in American History", your far right party (the Republicans) will keep repeating this. But if it makes you feel better, go back to blaming Muslims in Michigan or whatever.

[–] nthavoc@lemmy.today 9 points 5 hours ago

The democrats are in on it too and it doesn't matter how many candidates they have politically aligned with the public's best interest. I keep saying this but the only way to break out of this loop is for both parties to split and take a large chunk of resources with them with they do. They also need to eliminate the "CEO" position for any party and all vote for the primary candidates instead of making arbitrary decisions. I get it, you need a leadership for housekeeping reasons, but the current RNC and DNC CEO's are not at all about housekeeping for the greater good. All of it is lip service while they take tax-free "political contributions" from all those shady "SuperPACS" . This is all wishful thinking and I'm just hear along for the ride in the billionaire made hand basket to hell.

[–] kokolowlander@lemm.ee 13 points 8 hours ago (3 children)

The swing voters in the US is dumb as a brick.

They care a lot more about "culture war" issues.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 10 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

So make "tax the rich" a culture war thing. Left populism is a winning strategy too.

[–] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Left populism is a winning strategy too.

Not if its surpressed in (social) media, unfortunately.

As horrific as it sounds, the US very much needs a 'Democrat Trump.' But even that can't happen in the current media environment. There are all sorts of proposals to address that, but the problem seems to be that people can't help themselves and keep using Twitter, watching Fox, stay glued to Facebook or whatever.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 8 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

How? The largest campaign that ever occurred for taxing the rich was occuring by AOC and Bernie around the U.S. The media will air something about Trump taking a green shit after drinking a blue slupee far more. It doesn't matter until they switch the notion to something that threatens the media and their families lives more than likely. They own the media.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 hours ago

Don't ask me, a random guy on the internet. Ask your elected representatives, your intellectuals, your think tanks. Your civil society, man, not some random Canadian online.

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 14 points 7 hours ago

"Swing Voter" == "Too Embarrassed To Admit Being A Republican"

[–] TwinTitans@lemmy.world 2 points 4 hours ago

Don’t hate the 1%, hate the gays!

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 46 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (5 children)

And let's not forget. Tens of millions of magas, having witnessed the past few months, would vote him in again tomorrow if we gave them a do-over.

As furious as I am at the oligarchs taking over every last thing, evil greedy bastards gonna evil greedy bastard.

That anger pales in comparison to my rage at the tens of millions of my countrymen who dragged the rest of us into this fucking hellscape with them for no reasons beyond:

-Ignorance

-Hate

The ratio of those varies from maga voter to maga voter, but IME those are pretty much the only two reasons I see for why they have condemened not only themselves but also the entire rest of the nation to life in this emerging dystopia. They've already killed people in this country with their vote, and the numbers will only go up.

Yet somehow we all still have to go to work and get along every day, but I truly don't care if I never see or speak to a single Trump voter ever again, and that includes so-called friends and family members. They are all dead to me, or as dead as familial and work obligations will allow. Every last one can choke on a bag of dicks and razor blades as far as I care.

Edit - I beg you, random silent downvoter, to explain to me where I've gone wrong in the above.

[–] GoodOleAmerika@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Best is to let them go into poverty and famine, and go extinct

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemm.ee 4 points 7 hours ago

It's called false consciousness. The workers are socialized through media, religion, and other social institutions, to identify with and support the ruling class. You see this in the way they adore Elmo Skum. I've known IT workers who bragged about the fancy car they basically bought for their manager.

Yes, it's a Marxist perspective. But Marx wasn't wrong.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 12 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

You summarize it perfectly. I am so disheartened by my fellow countrymen. So put off that I left the country and have no intention of ever returning there to live. When I see someone like Klepper interview maga, it is always driven home just how absolutely stupid and ignorant maga are. It's really no wonder he got elected again. trump is indeed the symptom not the disease. I think the Leopards Ate My Face communities do a grave injustice because I see such communities giving people the false impresssion that maga is "realizing" something. That couldn't be further from the truth. Many of my progressive friends are stuck in the "surely they're all waking up", "surely he wouldn't try to do that", "surely he wouldn't get elected again" cycle.

I believe there is a third reason in addition to ignorance and hate: tribalism. whether it's their religious tribe, or racial tribe, or sexuality tribe, conservatives tend to embrace tribalism more than anyone else. To them there are in groups and out groups. In groups that the law protects but does not bind, and out groups that the law binds but does not protect.

Ignorance, tribalism, hate, xenophobia, intolerance have always been able to take root in the minds of the weak. But when the oligarchs realized that the ignoranti could be a powerful tool, they became a product. Those millions of maga people you mention have been and are groomed continually to be tools for enabling the transfer of wealth. They are groomed with fear, misinformation, manipulation, appeals to tribalism, and appeals to uncertainty. They are groomed so effectively that they groom themselves and their own children.

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[–] iridebikes@lemmy.world 5 points 8 hours ago

Can't trust the random public anymore. It's a real shame. There has been a massive shift in my perception of these people.

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