So just torrent on i2p. Jesus, these guys pretend a centralized for profit solution is the only option.
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Do I need to quote the article for people?
Switzerland's current surveillance law instructs mobile networks and internet service providers (ISPs) to collect and store user data. The proposed change would extend this to VPNs, messaging apps, and social media companies.
Yen described it as a "major violation of the right to privacy" – something that directly contradicts Proton's "privacy by default" tagline.
"This revision attempts to implement something that has been deemed illegal in the EU and the United States," Yen claimed. "The only country in Europe with a roughly equivalent law is Russia."
His response seems accurate and reasonable.
Thanks for the sanity. I'd also add this quote:
"The law would become almost identical to the one in force today in Russia. It's an untenable situation. We would be less confidential as a company in Switzerland than Google, based in the United States. So it's impossible for our business model."
I think people read the headline and think he said they could operate in Russia when he clearly says they do not. Unfortunately he doesn't say which countries he would even consider moving the business to.
Probably because they have no idea where they'd move at this stage. Every year an encryption backdoor is proposed in the EU. The EU is not far behind the US when it comes to mass surveillance and the destruction of privacy.
Seems like Somalia would be perfect
And the rest of the comments didn't even bother to read more than the headline (as usual 😑).
"This revision attempts to implement something that has been deemed illegal in the EU and the United States," Yen claimed
What is he talking about? US and EU to some extent do store and track user data.
And don't the big names have a surveillance pact to share each others data?
The Swiss were not a part of that. After this, who knows, the United States would love to poke into the private lives of people who use Proton.
People on Lemmy are suffering from a serious case of BEC and this thread is clear evidence of this guy being a target of it
Bitch eating crackers?
as in 'look at this bitch eating crackers like he owns the place'. someone you don't like does something harmless, but you'd criticize him no matter what he does.
A gaseous superfluid phase of matter in which all the particles have the same quantum state.
uhh.. sure?
No, the vulgar slang one.
I really don’t get why people follow this community just to shit on proton in every thread.
I shat on the CEO because he needed to do better, and this is a visible place to point that out.
For a company and application suite that is critical for privacy and security and bills itself as a privacy and security safe place, their number one job is to make sure that they're not doxing people or cooperating unnecessarily with government to dox people.
I fully support their idea to move to a country that won't compromise that mission.
It's like that on Reddit too. Sometimes I wonder if its outside agitators (like you see on places like r/Brave, r/CalyxOS, etc), or if its just idiotic people who don't know better...
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