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Aside from the lousy speakers and the occasional bounce keys, I have to say the Lemur Pro may be my favorite laptop I have owned (I used MacBook Pros for a long time).

I ended up switching to Arch with KDE, but hardware-wise it's a solid machine. And I appreciate the technical support I've received (minor issues). I love the battery life on this thing.

I also appreciate: easy to swap SSDs, easily replaced battery, a keyboard and track pad that work just fine, and again: tech support. I know some people who have issues with sleep on Lenovo laptops running Linux; this has absolutely never been an issue on the Lemur Pro. Works perfectly for me.

I'll probably run this thing for another three years.

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[–] bitspace@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Wired agrees.

I'm finding myself wishing I had gone that route instead of the Kudu.

[–] Wasabimiester@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I saw that article. And that's for the more recent Lemur Pro.

It isn't perfect (I have the Lemur Pro 9) but it works very well if you're not a gamer, you just want to write code, you want to run whatever Linux distro, you're not expecting a "boom box", etc.

[–] general-noob@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Same experience, love it. Got an i5 lemp9, only upgraded the ssd. I still get 10+ hours on the battery

[–] Wasabimiester@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Yes. And you can find the battery a bit cheaper on ebay, but I dearly love the battery life I get off this thing.

I just hate the speakers. Meh .... not a big deal.

[–] ZobeidZuma@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Mine has lousy speakers, awful click action on the touch pad, doesn't close up neatly, runs warm, doesn't have the greatest battery life. I installed Mint because Pop!_OS drives me up the wall too much.

The touch pad is the worst, as I fumble trying to find the exact spot to press for a click to be recognized, and try to operate it without making the pointer jump off the item I was trying to click on.

[–] Wasabimiester@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Odd. I find this very odd. I have had none of the issues you mention.

Touch pad is fine, the machine does not run warm, but I can't comment on Pop_OS as I moved to Arch.

Have you reached out to S76? The few times I have, they have been very responsive.

[–] brother_yam@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

If your laptop isn't closing, you may want to check your battery. With laptop this thin, a spicy pillow will keep it from closing and will affect your keyboard and touchpad. I have a lemp10 and like it, but I've replaced the battery twice now.

[–] LennonVC@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Love my lemur12 i7, looking forward to Virgo.

[–] TrawlerJoe@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Lemp9 here; still going strong as well. Love it except for the speakers and touchpad.

[–] Wasabimiester@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I don't have an issue with the touchpad. What is it you don't like?

[–] Wasabimiester@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I'm fine with the touch pad. But yes, the speakers are kinda awful.

[–] doa70@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

About moving to Arch, I have a Mira on order and I'm strongly considering not using Pop for very long after playing it in a VM for a week or so. I don't care for the “bubble gum” look and feel, and this will be my work machine so I'm looking elsewhere.

I don't think Arch would be good for a work machine, although I enjoy using Arch on my personal gear.

Was it something about Pop that made you switch?

[–] Wasabimiester@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Was it something about Pop that made you switch?

No, I just wanted something that was closer to the philosophy of FreeBSD. I consider FreeBSD the OS that god uses. 😄

I could just as easily have installed Arch with GNOME.

I really don't have issues with Pop_OS. It's fine. I just prefer KDE. And I wanted an OS that wasn't based on Ubuntu. (I know people who have worked at Canonical and just ... I have heard horror stories). I don't trust Canonical.

I think for a newbie to Linux there is nothing to complain about with Pop_OS. It worked just fine for me for about two years. I just wanted to move to Arch and it has been pretty much painless.

Gotta love the freedom of choice in the Linux world.

[–] zwxz@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

My only, slight apprehension before getting S76 laptops is that I'm based in Europe, and I'm not sure what sort of support I'll get if I needed one.

On the other hand, support for 'commercial' laptops is already pretty lousy where I live (apart form Macs I suppose, but I'll never buy a Mac), so maybe I should just buy it and not worry about support much.

[–] Wasabimiester@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I can't comment on that at all. I am in the US.

All I can say is that System 76 support for me has been very good. Never need to use a phone; just use their support web site and they have been on top of every (minor) issue I have had. And I mean minor: wifi card went south, needed a new battery, and I need to stop opening this thing in my living room: I've lost screws. Also, the left CTRL key cracked. They addressed all that silliness rather quickly.

I very very much appreciate their support of right-to-repair. I look forward to the day System76 releases their own laptop (the laptops they sell are essentially Clevo. I won't complain, tho, because this thing works very well)

I ended up switching to Arch with KDE. But I think out-of-the-box a System76 laptop running their customized GNOME is just fine.

I have not tried to run Linux on a lot of laptops, but it seems to me the most common complaint is suspend. I have never, ever had an issue with suspend on the Lemur Pro. I close the laptop, and it suspends. Every single time.

And I love the battery life.

My only complaint: the speakers are atrocious. But I don't much care as I use bluetooth or I Chromecast. Not a big deal.

I just think the company does a good job. Perfect? Nah, nobody is perfect. But I think they have a vision and I'm happy with what that vision is.