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I've been seeing all these posts about Linux lately, and looking at them, I can honestly see the appeal. I'd love having so much autonomy over the OS I use, and customize it however I like, even having so many options to choose from when it comes to distros. The only thing holding me back, however, is incompatibility issues. A lot of programs I work with very often are Windows-exclusive, and alternatives supporting Linux are rare. So I guess I'm stuck with Windows, since I deem those particular programs really important.

Any advice from Linux nerds here? All constructive replies are very appreciated.

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[–] sep@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Without knowing the exact programs, you can only get general answers.

If there is no direct alternative program, you can change your workflow to use other programs. Or you can try to run those important programs in wine. Or i can run those in a terminal server, or via a windows vm. Or more lately many programs come in web versions that works for everyone.

I have used linux exclusivly on my daily driver for about 23ish years.i mostly work with the linux side of things. And the few windows things the company require i use web versions, or a windows vm.

[–] mvirts@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

First start using ardour gimp inkscape libreoffice and blender on windows, then dual boot or use a VM to install Linux and start challenging yourself to use it for real stuff when you can. You may eventually realize you're using Linux much more than Windows, like when you boot into Windows and every time require a bunch of updates. Eventually your windows will be so out of date you remove it entirely or start using a windows vm.

[–] alt@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago

A lot of programs I work with very often are Windows-exclusive, and alternatives supporting Linux are rare.

Consider mentioning the programs you work with. On a general note, Wine can be used to make Windows-software work on Linux. Bottles can be used to that effect as a front-end. Furthermore, for a more sophisticated solution; consider taking a look at CodeWeavers.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago

I come across Windows-only apps very seldom, when it happens I run them in a VM. It's usually stuff like proprietary config app for a mouse or keyboard.

[–] Theoriginalthon@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

If you have to use a program that is windows only you have to use windows. I could move our entire company over to Linux if it wasn't for SOLIDWORKS been windows only.

Wine can be an option but I've found it very hit and miss on some of the more obscure windows only programs

In the past I've used virtual box (virtual machine) in seamless mode, so it looks just like a window in Linux. I can't remember why I stopped, I think it was down to licencing and oracle buying it.

[–] GustavoM@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

I either compile em or run Windows to use said "program".

...I mean... when the latter happens is always someone else's PC, so eh.

[–] JackGreenEarth@lemm.ee 2 points 2 years ago

Are they like proprietary business programs? What programs can't run on Linux even though WINE?

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Wine/Proton can run a huge amount of Windows programs.

Honestly though I've just been using Linux for 8 or so years now and just find some other solution. For general computing it really isn't hard at all. Perhaps if you have some weird proprietary work software or absolutely need Adobe it could be an issue

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[–] 0xtero@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

Sometimes customers want me to use a specific piece of software so I have a QEMU Windows installation I use.

[–] calzone_gigante@lemmy.eco.br 2 points 2 years ago

My advice is segregatting work and personal environment, your company's computer isn't safe for general usage.

About stuff you use for yourself, don't focus on which program you want to use, but on the task you must accomplish, most software that is made to mimic a Windows workflow are not great, sometimes you think you need a msword alternative, but you just need to create a document, there's many ways to manipulate documents on linux that are so much better than text processors like word or libre/wps/only, and you will miss it by straight up looking for alternatives.

On Window's software are usually bound by a lot a comercial bullshit, they have to bloat to be able to be forever at development and pushing new versions, Linux usually follows into Unix philosophy, aiming for small high quality software that are easy to compose into a bigger workflow, even when not using cli tools that operate on text streams, a gui linux application usually work with standard formats, don't try to overlap features and are easy to replace if needed.

And about transition, i like the dual boot approach, have a linux partition, and use it for what you can do better on linux when you want to, as you get better with linux, you will be wanting to use window's less and less.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

CrossOver is also made by CodeWeavers, but includes paid support as well. Maybe it might suit your use case?

https://www.codeweavers.com/crossover

[–] Steamymoomilk@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Does anyone know how well this actually works? Ive been fighting with fusion 360 to work on linux. Yes i know about bottles and it works okish but it lags alot.

[–] princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

Are you looking to run games, or other software? ProtonDB has details of what games do and don’t work using it. Proton is also maintained by CodeWeavers, I think it’s basically the gaming support from CrossOver.

[–] Gabadabs@kbin.social 2 points 2 years ago

If I'm being totally honest, my primary use-case is gaming. I only have linux installed on my device, and if a game doesn't work, I simply play other things and hope it will eventually work.
Sometimes, with some effort, you can get windows programs to work using wine. For example, I was able to run Mod Organizer 2 to mod skyrim without issues. If that fails and your software won't work in wine, you could either find alternative native linux software or just dual-boot. I used to do that to play VR games in windows 10 since I've had issues running them in linux. Another option is to run a windows Virtual Machine whenever you need whatever software you can't get working, but there's pretty bad performance limitations unless you can get hardware passthrough working.

[–] AlecSadler@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

For Visual Studio Enterprise, Adobe PDF editing, native Office apps, SSMS, and RDP thin clients, I use a Windows VM.

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[–] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Virtual machine or Bottles. If neither can help then I just take the L

[–] theRealBassist@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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[–] TwinTusks@outpost.zeuslink.net 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A question regarding bottles, do I have to install dependencies in the settings? My exe all installed without error but can't open.

[–] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Not sure. I guess it depends on the software you're trying to use. Watcha downloading? Maybe I can try it on my end.

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[–] Hairyblue@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

All my games work with Steam/Proton (thanks Value!) and I mainly use my desktop as a gaming PC. I do some bussiness stuff but LibreOffice will work. Or I also use Google Docs to do things--can be saved as Microsoft Office file types or PDF.

But you are right, if you need a Windows only program, then Windows is the only option. I had to update the firmware on my Xbox controller that I use with Steam to play my games. I had to wipe one of my laptops and put a copy of Windows on there to get this done. Another time there was a free Baldurs Gate game from Amazon games I could get, BUT you needed the Amazon Game app to get it. And it only ran on Windows. I put Windows on a laptop, download the free game, then moved it to my Linux Gaming PC. After adding it to Steam as a non Steam game, I was exploring dugeons with elves and dwarves.

It's still a Windows world, but IF enough gamers switch to Linux that could change. And Microsoft is only going to get worse with ads.

[–] yukijoou@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago

to answer to question in the title, on top of what was already said: i just code them myself. of course, it doesn't work for everything, but for simple programs, i can write a script or a proper thing that does the specific task i need!

[–] interceder270@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

I shit my pants

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago
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