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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 26 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Would they ban the person if it was a pro Israel speech?

If no, then the school admins can fuck right off

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

it’s not “pro palestine”, it’s not “anti israel”,
it’s anti genocide of palestinians by israelis…
they try to keep framing it as that, as some nationalist thing….

[–] dumptruck@lemmings.world 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

No, no I am certainly anti-Israel as well; I now fully believe the country should be gone away with like was done in Africa whenever they won their independence back.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 6 days ago

well that’s just completely divorced from reality

[–] Zealousideal_Fox_900@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I could 100% respect a university being no politics etc whatsoever in speeches, but 5 bucks says double standard.

[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 9 points 6 days ago (1 children)

"No politics whatsoever" supports the status quo and is therefore political and a double standard.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

First they ignore you,

then they laugh at you,

then they fight you, <-- you are here

then you win.

[–] BackgrndNoize@lemmy.world 13 points 6 days ago

Wow that's pathetic, so theres no distinction left between MIT and that Bible belt shit hole university that didn't let a student graduate after she came out as gay

[–] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)
[–] pyre@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

make a list of all these fascists. people must not forget those who stood firmly on the side of genocide.

edit: you don't need to make distinguishing marks on their clothes when they're already wearing the swastika armband. "oh please don't mistreat the fascists, that makes you a fascist!"

[–] nimisnimi@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)
make a list of all these fascists.

Is that your next suggestion, omg: "Let them wear special distinguishing marks on their clothes too. Like, some kind of a star sign"?!

/S

That's seriously creepy, dude.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 0 points 5 days ago

fucking yes. if you allow fascists and collaborators to just dust off their hands and pretend nothing happened once the regime comes down, you're just setting the timer back until the next fascist regime.

they're collaborating with the regime now, and once it's gone, they will all have always opposed it.

no. you have to remember all of them. no quarter for fascists. no excuse for collaborators.

[–] Zenith@lemm.ee 1 points 6 days ago

Couldn’t have been worse than the cringefest speech Hank Green gave that’s for sure

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 161 points 1 week ago (10 children)

Fucking even MIT gone mega what fhe fuck.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 111 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (9 children)

Desperate to prove their fascist bona fides in the hopes of retaining funding. It will come back to bite them. There's no winning way to play this game but there's and honorable and a dishonorable way.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Is Harvard the only big boy that stepped up? There has to be more, right?

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 58 points 1 week ago (13 children)

MIT is deep in bed with the MIC. Their administration is not friendly towards Arabs unless those Arabs have a line of credit with Boeing or Raytheon.

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[–] DarkCloud@lemmy.world 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

Most big colleges have helped evict and deport people on studen visas. They cooperate and are complicit.

I'm betting it wouldn't be difficult to find links between MITs research and development labs and weapons and technologies companies involved in Gaza.

Societies are sometimes like big interconnected machines, large parts become complicit in denial, repression, and destruction.

Edit: yep, as expected:

Since at least 2015, MIT laboratories have received millions of dollars from the Israeli Ministry of Defense for projects to develop algorithms that help drone swarms to better pursue escaping targets; to improve underwater surveillance technology; and support military aircraft evade missiles. Two of these sponsorships were renewed since October 7th, 2023, while one came up for renewal in December 2024. Second, MIT maintains institutional collaborations through the ILP, LGO, CSAIL, and MIT Energy Initiative programs with companies that sell vast amounts of weapons to Israel. These include Elbit Systems, Israel’s largest military contractor, as well as Maersk, Lockheed Martin, and Caterpillar. These collaborations grant genocide profiteers privileged access to MIT talent and expertise.

P.S That drone swarm technology is part of why 83% of American doctors who have provided care in Gaza, have reported treating children for being shot in the head. Source: NPR's The American Life.

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 36 points 1 week ago (8 children)

MIT didn't "go maga". They are intrinsically tied to government contracts.

Basically all STEM research at the university level is funded by a mixture of corporate and government interests. Even NSF grants (remember when those were a thing...) tend to focus on areas that anyone with a keen eye can see having military applications. One of my favorites was the massive push for graph analytics 10 or 15 years back and people not realizing that was a roundabout way of saying "analyze social media".

MIT in particular is VERY dependent on this because they need to be "elite". Smaller state universities can shuffle money around and focus on other funding sources, to a degree. MIT can't because their staff inherently have good networks and would jump ship the moment their perks start going away.

Contrast that with Harvard where they still get lots of "donations" from rich and powerful lawyers (and politicians) and where the publicity for "fighting the government" can heavily offset all the international students getting put in a concentration camp before their checks clear.

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[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 138 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"We encourage students inquiry and critical thinking" "no not like that!"

[–] nimisnimi@lemmy.ca -2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Calling other people (all the more, a nation as a whole) names - is not critical thinking.

Presenting biased rhethorics (all the more, not in a neutral manner, but emotionally loaded claims) and ommitting any contradicting points - has nothing to do with critical thinking.

Opinions vs facts. One-sided accusing vs rational thinking. 💁

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Yeah no. Calling Nazis Nazi is a perfectly rational take. One does not to condemn an active genocide "in a neutral manner," neither do Nazis deserve neutrality.

[–] wolframhydroxide@sh.itjust.works 2 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

They're just here trolling. The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. Israel's finance minister said they intend to "entirely destroy" Gaza, and the English language has a word for "something you entirely destroy by fire": it's 'holocaust'.

So, I think we should trigger this guy more by using the term in the original, objective sense:

This genocide, to which all current supporters of the Zionist state of Israel are party, is intentionally making a holocaust of Gaza.

ETA: Let the record reflect that the denial of any genocide when shown such irrefutable evidence,


whether the Holocaust against Poles, Jews and others of the 40s, or this genocide of Palestinians


makes you party to its crimes.

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 85 points 1 week ago (4 children)
[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 46 points 1 week ago (1 children)

DARPA money is a hell of a drug?

I have no idea if this is a real thing or not.

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[–] FreeWilliam@lemmy.ml 67 points 1 week ago

"You showed the world that MIT wants a free Palestine".

“You called for a permanent ceasefire in Gaza, and you stood in solidarity with the pro-Palestine activists on campus. You faced threats, intimidation, and suppression coming from all directions, especially your own university officials, but you prevailed because the MIT community that I know would never tolerate a genocide."

“Right now, while we prepare to graduate and move forward with our lives, there are no universities left in Gaza..We are watching Israel try to wipe Palestine off the face of the earth, and it is a shame that MIT is a part of it.”

“This means that Israel’s assault on the Palestinian people is not only aided and abetted by our country, but our school. As scientists, engineers, academics, and leaders, we have a commitment to support life, support aid efforts, and call for an arms embargo, and keep demanding, now as alumni, that MIT cuts the ties,"

[–] hakase@lemm.ee 50 points 1 week ago

Kinda brilliant on the class president's part - still give the speech and get the media coverage for it, but do it before commencement so they're less likely to steal your diploma as a result.

[–] mapmyhike@lemmy.world 42 points 1 week ago (2 children)

You would think that a college would know that the Palestinian people are not Hamas and the Palestinians are the ones being genocided by Israel so that tRump can build a golf course. MIT certainly doesn't have the brightest. Maybe the most cowardice.

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[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 week ago

Massachusetts Institute of Terror

[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Self censoring is not the answer... Come on MIT, you know better.

Well, now that I say that, MIT has a not perfect track record when it comes to legal matters and policy decisions. I think of Aaron Swartz for instance...

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