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[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 16 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (2 children)

Nobody understands Superman, especially most of his writers.

Dude is alien Moses created by two Jews during the Holocaust. His arch nemesis is a billionaire/the president. C'mon.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 8 points 21 hours ago

Kryptonite is pork, basically?

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

has there even been a plot line where the system in so corrupt, superman has no choice but to become a villain to safe the world.

ie he didn't have the "consent" of the us president.

probably happened when lex was president.

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[–] hzl@lemmy.blahaj.zone 21 points 1 day ago

This just makes me think of Captain Planet. He knew how to solve these sorts of issues. By beating up assholes and making them stop.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 5 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Do people really write "yeah" as "yea"? Why isn't that pronounced like sea or pea or tea?

[–] roguetrick@lemmy.world 6 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)
[–] Jerb322@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)
[–] beejboytyson@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago

Wow, here we are.

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 58 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Couldn't he just take all the billionaires and fly them into the sun or smth? I don't know if that alone would fix things, but it's a start. Also literally no downsides.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 day ago

His nemesis is literally a billionaire and he never managed to get rid of him.

[–] HappySkullsplitter@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago

Ah yes, In. Public he "Fights" the rich but in the Dark he is awfully chummy with a rich furry.

[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

We got American Superman. We got Soviet Superman. We need Anarchist Superman.

[–] voxthefox@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Captain planet gets close to that

[–] MachineFab812@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Don Cheadle's Captain Planet, you mean.

[–] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

That's why he's constantly fighting ~~Jeff bezos~~ Lex Luther l.

[–] mad_lentil@lemmy.ca 13 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I bet you if he just lightly beat up one billionaire a day that the problem would sort itself out pretty quickly.

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[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 127 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

It is interesting that Superman’s archenemy was an incredibly wealthy businessman. That seems to be the exact problem with our world today (there’s just many more of them).

[–] obinice@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

The more you look at the villains in all the TV, movies, and books growing up, the more you realise they're mostly evil capitalists.

It's weird that Hollywood etc would green light so many movies about how rich people like themselves are evil, and teaching kids to fight against them.

The rich landlord is going to close the community club hall! The rich businessman is trying to have us killed to cover up his chemical spills! Etc etc.

If it's not a literal alien from another planet, more often than not the bad guy is just a literal normal capitalist.

And yet try to use the lessons taught in every piece of media you ever watched as an impressionable child, and you're told that your anticapitalist beliefs are "extremist" and you're dangerous and must be stopped.

Weird eh?

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Don't forget about fighting people who actually have plans to make the world a better place

Related note, excellent video essay, "Defenders of the Status quo" https://youtu.be/LpitmEnaYeU

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Only watched half of the video (because it's something I'm well aware of), so it might have gone into it, but another angle is that there's often villains that make good points and then suddenly take it in a batshit direction.

Like Thanos had a point but apparently never understood exponential growth and how reducing all life by any constant factor is just delaying the same result, even if his snap made 99% of people disappear (unless he snaps enough people that the population collapses entirely, which is what he wanted to avoid).

There's many other examples where reasonable starting points end up in unquestionably evil conclusions. Pretty sure it's just propaganda to make people who don't think much about things link those reasonable beginnings with "evil" in their minds.

Also there's characters like Bruce Wayne and Tony Stark who are billionaires but their stories always ignore the realities of what must be done in order to become a billionaire (ie underpay staff doing the actual work by billions). In Stark's case, they sidestep that by giving him super advanced AIs and automation robots, though he's still the owner of a large corporation, that he still benefits from despite offloading any of the responsibility of even running it to everyone else.

[–] Semjaza@lemmynsfw.com 3 points 19 hours ago

They even rewrote Thanos to have those Malthusian ~~under~~tones, originally he just had a bone for Marvel's legally distinct from DC'd genki goth girl personification of death and wanted her to notice him.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

It's addressed in the video, that these characters are always written to then go over the proverbial line.

[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 90 points 1 day ago (5 children)

Environmentalists in comic books are nearly always deranged villains, and the ones that aren't are still weak and naïve.

The only strong environmentalist hero in Western canon is Captain Planet, and he's got sus narc vibes.

[–] SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago

Poison Ivy is essentially an anti-hero at this point, and she is considered fairly powerful too.

[–] ideonek@piefed.social 24 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Well, Green Arrow. But you have a point.

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[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 18 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There are evil "robots" you can go beat up to solve those issues, yes

[–] DoucheBagMcSwag@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

But you said they were robots Rick!!

They're bureaucrats Morty! I don't respect em.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 10 points 1 day ago

This is what I like about Wonder Woman. She shows up and is like. "Oh shit! There's a world war going on! Better go stop that." Meanwhile in the present super man is stopping random petty theft.

[–] jmcs@discuss.tchncs.de 43 points 1 day ago (12 children)

We can solve those problems directly or indirectly by tying superman to a dynamo. With free energy even the issues with materials can be solved over time.

[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (4 children)

Just have superman round up every billionaire and political leader and drop them off on an deserted island, and the rest of us can start fixing our problems like adults.

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1930s Superman would've agreed with the crowd.

[–] omega_x3@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
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[–] lemmycdatass@lemmynsfw.com 1 points 19 hours ago

Nope. What you got for limp dick? Can I try chewing on a hair or toenail cutting?

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