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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

And the "Big Beautiful Bill" will just make it worse.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 24 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There was a post recently saying the total sum of wage theft, including conventional theft and the results of suppressed wages, totals to like $50 trillion over the past few decades.

Shit's bad. But other than the rich, people in the US have like no class consciousness.

How have we as a people not agreed to just strip musk and bezos of all their personal wealth and use it to fund infrastructure and social projects. In ancient civilizations, these guys would have been dragged to the chopping block ages ago

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 10 points 20 hours ago

Nothing will meaningfully improve until the rich fear for their lives

[–] thatradomguy@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This isn't news. It's BEEN like this. Why people are letting these guys get away with it is beyond me. Why is he still alive?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 7 points 21 hours ago

Yeah, I remember in 2010 struggling to pay rent and groceries with a full time job in the US. So crazy.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 8 points 23 hours ago

The American Dream ended in 1975.

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Hey America are we great yet?

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 5 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Almost. The tariffs should be working their magic any second now... Any second now...

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 5 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

Me still waiting for my $5000 I was promised in February so I can invest it in crypto and be a billionaire by summer…

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 77 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

They're also losing their constitutional rights and their entire republic.

Marines deployed in US cities...
And nobody does a damn thing about it...

Personally, I've written off America. It's now officially a fascist hellhole.

[–] pinkapple@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah okay sure, when the US was putting down mass insurrections in Detroit etc with the National Guard and there was armed combat in the streets (1960s) the US wasn't a fascist hellhole officially. Or the entire period until the 1965 Voting Act and the multiple Civil Rights Acts (didn't end in the 60s) that it took for "constitutional rights" to be applied to all residents because simply being a resident didn't make you a full citizen in the "constitutional republic" if you didn't have the right skin tone, that also wasn't officially a fascist hellhole either.

What else? Henry Ford publishing a ton of dodgy anti-Semitic literature in the 1920s and inspiring Hitler and the Euro OG fascists? Not officially fascist hellhole enough.

Blood quantum laws, one drop rules, eugenics programs etc that also directly inspired the Nazis but were often rejected for being too extreme for them (the Nuremberg blood laws that determined Jewish ancestry are significantly more lenient than US one drop laws)? Not officially fascist hellhole.

Yeah, USA was straight up Weimar Republic or maybe the USSR or maybe anarchist Catalonia during the Spanish Civil War until Trump won in 2016.

Can people start pushing back against this self-serving center-lib romantic bs already? Because simply put, if it all got ruined because of Trump then come right out and say openly that you're fine with everything that came before because it mostly affected natives, blacks and foreigners but not US WASPs. Or I don't know, relax because saying it's always been a total hellhole doesn't mean you support Trump.

Maybe I should mention that this is Cold War era propaganda about USA representing "freedom and democracy" (the free world bs) vs totalitarianism etc back during the time segregation and putting people in jail for sodomy were supposedly freedom loving acts?

[–] thingAmaBob@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Agreed. People are forgetting how the USA was created. This isn’t new. Targeting “illegals” has happened more than once before. If things actually implode, it could hopefully become an opportunity to build a fair society; one where white (elite) supremacists aren’t actually in charge.

[–] pinkapple@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 day ago

Honestly you can't even meaningfully summarize just the 20th century and late 19th in a single comment. Unleashing Pinkertons on strikers for example. Prez Wilson mass deporting Italians because they were anarchists and socialists while also designing little ethnostates after WWI and creating the excuse for WWII.

But that's where most would agree. If I said that even the liberal-leaning (not leftist, liberal) dominant discourse via mass media constantly frames US politics in terms of "stupidity" i.e. innate unchanging characteristics and not criminally underfunded public education that makes the working class more easily manipulated by bougie populists on both sides then I'm not sure most people would either get or want to admit that even the liberal dominant norms are lowkey eugenicist race science nazi shit but without calling it explicitly eugenics.

But it's a thing that once you see it you can't unsee it.

[–] Steve 45 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Personally, I’ve written off America. It\s now officially a fascist hellhole.

That's how the fascists win.

"All that's needed for evil to prevail, is for good men to do nothing."
- Someone I don't remember

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 day ago (5 children)

I don't have to do anything. I left the US and gave up my citizenship 25 years ago because it started to scare me when Dubya signed the USA Patriot Act and started turning Gitmo into a concentration camp. I'm watching the disaster unfold from afar.

I was kind of hoping America would get its shit together, but the only thing Americans are apparently good at is voluntarily drowning in more shit. They wanted Trump once because they're fucking morons, and they wanted it a second time after knowing exactly what he was and what he did because they're fucking fascists.

There's nothing good in America because there's nothing good in Americans. I should know, I was one.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 22 hours ago

You're a coward. We're better off without you.

Don't worry - we'll take care of it, or die trying.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 16 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's nothing good in America because there's nothing good in Americans. I should know, I was one.

That's a level of self-awareness this country could use tbh. My man's not afraid to admit he's got nothing good in himself in service of making the greater point that none of us Americans have nothing good in us either. 🥂

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago

I'm really glad they self deported. We need people who can see a future here without cruelty and fascism. Without seeing that, the fight is already over.

[–] WizardofFrobozz@lemmy.ca 18 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I lived in the states for about 6 years and left around 2005 for the same reason. Every day since, I’ve been increasingly grateful to be out of that fuckin place.

[–] Steve 8 points 1 day ago

That just reinforces my point

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Good thing we haven't given up.

[–] head_socj@midwest.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Nobody does a damn thing about it? Way to pre-emptively comply you spineless cuck.

[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 2 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

They're just scared. Certain European shutins are confused by what's going on, and they act out like this instead of asking questions.

These people have no idea what's actually going on.

[–] head_socj@midwest.social 1 points 21 hours ago

Thanks for drawing me back in towards empathy. I totally agree with everything you've said.

[–] SoloCritical@lemmy.world 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] moseschrute@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

We already did great. Now we’re keeping it great

/s

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 28 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I know this isn't really a universal indicator, but for me it's been watching the price of simple things like chips, candy, and soda ($3 for a 20 oz bottle?!?). All things that i enjoy occasionally but as the price of all these things continues to rise it becomes easier to say no. I was shocked to see the bagel place in town charging $15 for a sandwich on a bagel. Nobody seems to bat an eye though. I think I'm probably just getting gradually priced out of my town ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Of course I'm aware i don't have to buy any of that stuff and i can cook and make food at home, and that's what I've started doing. I may treat myself on occasion but i just can't justify spending that much on stuff that didn't used to cost half that. I'm probably just getting old and remember "back in my day" all too well, lol

[–] Bigfishbest@lemmy.world 17 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Compensating for relative lower income with low cost of consumer products is a bit like pissing your pants to get warm. The underlying issue is declining wages, caused by the loss of labor power. If people had decent wages a rise in prices would not be a problem. But while scraping by a rise in prices is a huge problem.

[–] head_socj@midwest.social 10 points 1 day ago

Facts. But the other side of that is the massively unequal tax burden. Tax corporations and wealthy proportionally to their reported net worth and use that to fund substantial public services (healthcare, transportation, education, childcare) so that rising wages aren't just funneled back into the same pockets.

[–] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Same here - ive even started buying rice and dried beans in bulk And taken to canning and growing veg. I'm not giving up my recreational funds for a Mc Crapwich

[–] August27th@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Bustedknuckles@lemmy.world 5 points 23 hours ago

Amen! Glad to see people appreciating and sharing "tax wealth, not work"!

[–] ArchmageAzor@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

You must be so tired of winning.