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Tulsi Gabbard left no doubt when she testified to Congress about Iran’s nuclear program earlier this year.

The country was not building a nuclear weapon, the national intelligence director told lawmakers, and its supreme leader had not reauthorized the dormant program even though it had enriched uranium to higher levels.

But Donald Trump dismissed the assessment of U.S. spy agencies during an overnight flight back to Washington as he cut short his trip to the Group of Seven summit to focus on the escalating conflict between Israel and Iran.

“I don’t care what she said,” Trump told reporters. In his view, Iran was “very close” to having a nuclear bomb.

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[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

Trump has always shown us he doesn't need intelligence.

[–] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 day ago

The best hint that Iran has no nukes is that the US is attacking them. If they had nukes they would keep away.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Not only is trump ignoring this, but lots and lots of shitlibs on this site are also.

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[–] Naevermix@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago (3 children)
[–] LadyButterfly@lazysoci.al 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] iknowitwheniseeit@lemmynsfw.com 8 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's Secretary of State Colin Powell testifying to Congress about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, during the Bush Jr. administration, I think.

[–] frostysauce@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That's Secretary of State Colin Powell ~~testifying~~ lying to Congress about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction, during the Bush Jr. administration, I think.

I had to.

[–] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Bush administration getting away with all their criminal shit paved the way for Trump.

[–] LadyButterfly@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 day ago

Tbf I doubt it was new in politics

[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 21 hours ago)

In fairness to Colin Powell, my understanding was he didn't know it was a lie/ trumped up evidence at the time, and was pretty bitter about it in later years.

[–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago

It's not Congress. It's the UN. And he was doing a really stupid publicity stunt about how that vial could hold anthrax to kill them all. And then went on about WMDs in Iraq.

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[–] FistingEnthusiast@lemmynsfw.com 114 points 2 days ago (4 children)

He's an idiot who has never been able to distinguish between his fantasies and reality

He's spent a lifetime making shit up, and never being held to account for it

He's a child, and what's worse, he has dementia.

He also lies as easily as he breathes. Truth means nothing to him. He sees being honest as a weakness

[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 52 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Just the person to entrust the most powerful military of the world with.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago (13 children)

"But what choice do we have? Entrust the military to a lady? We'll take the dementia-addled toddler instead"

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[–] Englishgrinn@lemmy.ca 54 points 2 days ago (5 children)

The truth doesn't really matter. Israel will get their war, and the US will lumber into it behind them.

What's crazy to me is apparently the US has become so polarized, so used to division that pointing out Israel is acting like bloodthirsty psychos is somehow supporting Iran, or Hamas before that. It's like their whole culture has evaporated any nuance at all. Only diametrically opposed good and evil battling forever. Professional wrestling stories with Heels and Faces divided by clear black lines.

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[–] tonytins@pawb.social 12 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The more he dismiss America's intelligence agencies, the more i believe them.

[–] LadyButterfly@lazysoci.al 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Yep exactly. If he says something I assume the opposite is true. I'm not saying this for comedy value, I genuinely do

[–] VeryInterestingTable@jlai.lu 52 points 2 days ago (4 children)

First, weaken the commercial aviation in your country. Second, start calling everything terrorism. Third, start yet another war in the middle east.

Your guy is desperately looking for another 911.

[–] PlexSheep@infosec.pub 3 points 1 day ago

Tronald would likely abuse the fuck Out of it to do more "emergency measures". We've seen this in Germany in the 30s with the Ermächtigungsgesetz after the Reichstag burned.

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[–] rayyy@lemmy.world 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Quick, dust off the "weapons of mass destruction" propaganda.

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[–] solsangraal@lemmy.zip 59 points 2 days ago (6 children)

why tf would a fascist dictator give a rat's ass about "reasons" to plunge multiple countries into war? he wants war, that's what's going to happen

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (8 children)

yeeeah... shrug, Trump ignores them all. And why shouldn't he? They didn't prevent him from happening, what's the point of the CIA, NSA etc when they either knew about him & putin, and let hit happen, or, they didn't know, even though it's been obvious since the 80s?

Nice job Intel community, you shot us all in the face.

[–] NewSocialWhoDis@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

So we oppose US intelligence agencies overthrowing democratically elected leaders in other countries but not their own?

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

if your own intelligence organs don't warn your gov that there's a foreign power influencing the election, yeah, I think that group isn't doing their fucking job.

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[–] Robotsandstuff@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago

We have done this dance before last time it cost me my 20s my sanity and most importantly a huge amount for friends I loved like brothers who died before and are still killing then selfs..

[–] OutlierBlue@lemmy.ca 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's fine. Iraq didn't have WMDs either. They just need a lie to sell it to the public.

[–] wanderwisley@lemm.ee 20 points 2 days ago (5 children)

So we are gonna do the Iraq WMD lie again huh?

[–] ShaggySnacks@lemmy.myserv.one 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

This season's twist is that the Intelligence community is claiming that there is no weapons. Unless the Intelligence community is doing reverse psychological on us.

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[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

People still believe Iraq had WMDs to this day.

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[–] xyzzy@lemm.ee 32 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (5 children)

In [Trump's] view, Iran was “very close” to having a nuclear bomb.

Those are clearly Netanyahu's words in his mouth. Netanyahu has been loudly and confidently saying that at regular intervals since 2012. Iran is always weeks away.

[–] Breezy@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago (2 children)

At the same time Isreal is like the only country that probably has nukes yet refuses to acknowledge it.

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[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The moron just wants the war to hide his shenaningans at home. Sole reason. Everyone should know by now that he automatically denies any and every thing that runs contrary to his own personal narrative.

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[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 25 points 2 days ago
[–] Plebcouncilman@sh.itjust.works 26 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Are we now choosing to believe what Tulsi says because it fits the narrative?

[–] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 29 points 2 days ago (26 children)

The alternative is believing Israel's government...

And they're an openly genocidal far right government made up of violent religious extremists...

Like, America is bad right now

But Israel has been on some straight up Nazi shit for a while now, because both Biden and Trump let Israel do whatever

Saying Iran isn't building nukes is the most pushback Israel has gotten since Obama was in office

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[–] torrentialgrain@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Okay so we believe Tulsi Gabbard now?

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