So, they are using breaching charges and military tactics. Where the gun people? Left wing 2A where you at?
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If you're asking this question you should be joining their ranks. Don't wait for someone else to protect you. Arm yourself and learn how to use it.
I'm not in america. I know how to use firearms and am trained.
I am asking the most armed country why it is a single way range right now, when they keep saying they have firearms for this specific situation.
It would seem that by "tyrannical government" most of us actually meant "non-whites".
More directly, I would guess the people who are in a position to do something, like myself, would prefer not to be the only one showing up against a militarized police force and federalized national guard troops. Armed resistance isn't widely viewed as necessary even though I would argue we're past the point where it should have been widespread. Perhaps holding that belief and not engaging in such methods makes me a coward, I'm honestly not sure. I do know that I see a lot more sentiments like "where are the armed leftists" than I do "how do I join an armed leftist organization" and I don't think we're going anywhere until that changes. Everyone, myself included, is waiting on someone else to step in and stop this rather than deciding that it's up to us to do it ourselves.
I think it's also that each individual person is so isolated and each small geographic region has such a lack of interconnected community. Each individual person, no matter how well armed or courageous, is nearly powerless against these organized paramilitary occupying forces in their communities.
Then keep your fucking mouth shut. We left wing armed people in America are few and far between, and it’s our own party’s fault. None of my IRL friends even k ow I own guns, and they’d be horrified if they did. I can’t buy standard magazines that my guns literally shipped with in the box (they are now banned), can no longer buy the same guns I already own (they are now banned), and in another year I’ll need to attend a class and fill out a form for a permit if I want to purchase a firearm, regardless of me owning them already.
“2a where you at?” <— fuck you, that’s fucking where. We’re probably less than 1% of the population, way too few to make any difference.
My fellow Democrats did this.
Enjoy fascism, assholes. You made sure we can’t stop it.
Fuuuucking preach. Couldn't have said it better if I tried.
Because most places require checks and classes. The myth of walking in and walking out with a gun in ten minutes isn't real in 90% f the United states.
Then there's learning how to shoot it without scaring yourself then there's actually knowing how to use one under stress
Now, one would have the learn to be cold blooded enough to want to harm someone
Those are HIGH barriers to cross, even if one a owns a gun.
One should always save that for last. Always.
If your skin ain't in the game you don't get to complain. It's easy to tell "other people" to go risk their lives.
Then Americans should stop saying their guns are for when tyrants show up.
I don't have skin in the game when the orange turd has threatened my country? Take that nonsense to the circus.
Real tired of your shit Yankee.
Bruh, the USA absolutely fucking excels in fucking complaining and invading without a shred of skin in the game. They have fucking earned to get tossed all the shit in the world at them.
I’m not in america.
Stopped reading.
It may read like it but this is not directed at you personally. It's directed at the wider universe of anti-gun liberals who've started crawling out of the woodwork to ask the same question you did and my reply is a snapshot of the overwhelming aggravation that many 2A people feel when hearing it.
Where the gun people?
It's California, there aren't that many "Gun People" around. California has doubled, tripled, and quadrupled down to make sure that their populace is absolutely as disarmed as possible. In fact nearly every god damned city that is having these kinds of ICE Raids is located in a State that's done the same thing. New York City, Chicago, Portland, and Denver are just a few examples.
Add onto that these kinds of immigrants can't legally purchase firearms so they're unable to do it themselves or even create Community / Mutual Aid situations and to make it worse they are living in ethnic enclaves so there's no regular citizens around to help.
The next question is likely to be "Okay, so where's all the 2A freaks from everywhere else?" and the answer to that is...how the fuck are they supposed to know when ICE is going to raid a place? Especially if that place is in another Town, County, or even State?
After that its usually something like "Well these Gun Nuts should just start countering ICE wherever they find them and not wait for a specific situation.".
The Anti-Government 2A people you are asking about tried 5 years ago and the same people who are today asking "Where the gun people?" wanted absolutely fucking nothing to do with them.
It happened back in 2020 and no one wanted to help. (Those guys received massive prison sentences by the way.) The Boogaloo Boys in general, and those two specifically, were then widely criticized for their actions even in minority and immigrant communities.
Hell the NRA is still being mocked for its Anti-Government / Pro 2A stance from thirty years ago!
Short sighted idiots cheer while Government disarms its citizens and they strongly back any law or movement intended to disarm them more and faster. Then when some people who are still armed go after Government Thugs they make it a point to shit on them while wishing them a quick journey to hell.
Then these same idiots have the absolute audacity to ask "Where are they?". It's the wrong people asking the wrong question.
The correct questions are "Where the fuck has everyone else been for the last 30 years?" followed by "Why the fuck should we help you now?" and the correct questioners the Anti-Government Gun Owners.
I just unloaded most of my defense ammo in preparation for going to the range tonight.
Honestly I've been seeing a Lot of diversity at the range lately. Many females too. People are arming up.
I’m sorry, if you have to be armed to the teeth and blow off a door to apprehend a single person, you’re doing something wrong.
Especially over a fender bender that happened a week prior in which you let that same person go free (because he didnt do anything illegal).
have they learned nothing from the time they bombed a city block in Philly?
fucking nazis.
Of course they learned something! That they can do that.
I mean, I vaguely heard about that decades later, so doesn't that mean they got away with it?
yeah. :(
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If you add white supremacist to every item in your list it all makes sense.
Brought to you by the party of white supremacy common sense, white supremacy reason, and white supremacist family values.
That makes much more sense now.
Family values white supremacist?
White supremacist family values.
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Lol that makes more sense
A couple dozen guys with rifles and body armor, an armored personnel carrier, breaching charges, a surveillance drone. You'd think Osama bin Laden was in that house.
"Thugs" isn't the right word.
Terrorists. Fascistic Lackeys. Brutalizers.
I have plenty of synonymous for these faceless fuckfaced assholes.
They are the "Jack Booted Government Thugs" that the NRA was yelling about 30 years ago. Literally, it was May of 1995. They were reacting to the spate of violent government actions against people of their community. Since then the NRA has been corrupted, gutted, and finally crushed by the very Government it used to rail against.
Democrats cheered it on while they worked overtime to leave half the country powerless to actually resist the Tyranny they claim to fear. I say claim because they're still at it right now, today, which is something that no one who was truly fearful would do.
The situation we are in is a reminder of why American's traditionally didn't trust Government and most especially overly power Federal Government.
State security forces of the Trump regime
these are the guys that just got a mega budget increase
What are they supposed to do? Just not use the cool expensive toys their increased budget got them? That would be a criminal waste of taxpayer dollars! /s
That's using the budget they have now.
The new budget going through right now increases their budget to an absurd degree. ICE is about to have a larger budget than any other country's entire military and defense budget.
They're 100% militarizing the gestapo.
Only the 8th best funded military when compared to nation states 🤮
No they are massively over budget. They haven't gotten a budget increase yet, it just passed Congress.
The massive budget is going to allow them to build death camps. Detainees are already dying.
What happens when a hurricane hits Florida's new tent camp?
This is so bad.
These guys are insane
Oh no, they're very sane. They just love weapons, violence, and cruelty more than most people do.