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If this was accurate, the ropes would have snapped and Homer would go hurddling to the base of the mountain.
That's what pacman -Syyu is for. The occasional life support failure and forced bug hunting is part of the experience.
command 'pacman' not found
aggressively re-pacstraps
I've installed Arch manually exactly once. (Just for the bragging rights, lol)
My go to way is just installing EndeavourOS. It's basically Arch, but with a nicer installer and reasonable defaults.
Once is all you need to be fair. After that you're the exact person who should be using archinstall.
I did it once, wrote down all the commands I used in order and then made my own install script. It was a great learning experience
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I use Endeavour, btw. Nah, I don't think it'll catch one.
I'm super stoked to be on an Arch-based system, but things have been so easy I have earned no bragging rights what-so-ever with it.
Go ahead, install Arch on a VM (it's not hard at all, actually!) and get your medal.
Then keep with Endeavour and enjoy your ride :D
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I got to where it expected me to partition the drive manually and noped out. I was doing that in the 90's when I compiled my own kernel. Ain't nobody got time for that today.
Installing arch without archinstall is way too much fucking work. I'd much rather spend time fixing the 10% greater likelihood of encountering issues post install than doing all that fucking bullshit manually. The command line is better for a lot of things but configuring partitions and mount points is not one of them. I demand a fuckin gui for that stuff.
Iβve done it both by the book and arch install. Arch install is just nice.
This is why arches based distos are taking off. They help with picking packages etc to save time.
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Installing Arch manually is not hard, and there are plenty of step-by-step guides.
Figuring out what you need next and then managing this mess is more complicated.
Source: I installed Arch manually btw
Years ago I installed it manually, too. For learning, yes. But regularly, no. The archinstall package is easy but a newbie would struggle there, too. It's just a faster way for skilled Linux Users.
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People copy and pasting from the wiki or gpt "pathetic"
Now I kind of want to see just how broken my install gets if I just have ChatGPT guide me through the whole installation.
It gets real messy, lol. I tried to have GPT guide me through figuring out a Node and nvm error in my Arch WSL and it made nightmare spaghetti out of my npm prefix.
It eventually got stuck in a loop of trying to make me do the same two things over and over again and expected different results each time.
People copying gpt commands into terminal is bound to be fked by the troll commands, right? Please.
I did it the manual way probably about 10 times on my Linux learning journey, it was a really good way to learn how Linux itself worked. Now I just use archinstall every time.
I've done it, I've gotten the satisfaction from it, but it's not gonna add any more inches to my e-peen.
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I use arch btw, have been for 5 or so years, I open the gates to those who want to use arch install
You are not any lesser for not wanting to install arch manually
Oh, you use pacstrap and arch-chroot, do you? Back in my day all we had was cp and install and we liked it that way! Kids these days wouldn't know how to install SLS without their Yays and Pac-men.
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I've been using arch since archinstall came out. I never installed it reading the wiki.
I sleep like a baby and everything works.
I installed Arch exactly once by hand. Since then I just copy the install with dd from one medium to the next.
I once installed Gentoo from scratch.
I then didn't use Linux for about 15 years, so take from that what you will.
We all carry trauma in our lives
When you've already reached the peak, why keep climbing?
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"We need more people to use linux, look at what MS is doing to people."
People who have never used linux trying to use and learn linux by using an installer built by awesome members of the Arch team.
"C'mon do you even linux?"
I've installed arch several times from scratch. Now if I need to I use archinstall. No shame
What is this magic? You are telling me that a single command would have spared me an entire day of suffering?
People here are always talking about different distros, trying this one and then that one until they found what they like. Are you guys really just reinstalling your OS that often? Reinstalling all the programs you want and everything?
I did for a few years, finally think I'm settled on arch for desktop, but for servers, hurry is still out
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Archinstall made my root partition 25 GiBs the first time I ever messed around on arch. That was fun when it filled up.
Learning to properly configure pre existing drives with archinstall was an adventure on its own.
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Wht does it even matter if you don't install Arch manually? Is the whole point of the arch installing? I don't think so, it's using. If you don't find anything joyful in manually installing arch it's perfectly fine to manually install only once to make sure you know how it works. And just use archinstall in every following installation that's not shamefu
No! Heathen! Download the source for every package and compile it yourself! Compile the kernel yourself, compile the compiler yourself! Never script anything, always do every step manually, every time! Using tools that make things convenient and foolproof makes you weak and unappreciative of the real hardship and struggle it requires to checks notes use a personal computer!
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Gentoo stage 3 here.
They discouraged earlier stages in the wiki :(
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Honestly, I had wayyyy more issues when using archinstall than just installing it normally by the wiki. I might just be stupid though :P
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Went with EndeavourOS instead so at least I have more than an ice cubes chance in hell of not borking my install
hardmode: I did a fresh install on a HDD that is on verge of being dead. Every-time this thing boots it's a miracle. Somehow dd blanking the disk, plenty of smartctl offline disk surface scans and finally putting btrfs with data in DUP profile resurrected the HDD. I have run btrfs scrub daily or else the os install may bitrot and well.. expire. :D
Edit: Todays catch, I was too late and now I have fix 3 files:
Error summary: read=112
Corrected: 109
Uncorrectable: 3
Unverified: 0
Cause following the arch wiki is sooooooo much of an efort
I found the effort was in researching and choosing which components to use, rather than actually installing once chosen. Itβs easy if you know exactly what youβre gonna install, but on that first build it definitely takes effort if you want to read into all the options and make educated choices
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I followed the wiki and pulled off a successful install..... On a vm. Once I felt confident and ready I remembered arch install was a thing and thought "sure I'll try it, it'll definetly break and I'll just use the wiki to install" then it worked without a hitch. I'm still running arch with no issues.
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Installing Arch 'the proper way' is a pilgrimage all Linux users should take. After that, they can fly with EndeavourOS at their convenience.
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