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[–] tanja@lemmy.blahaj.zone 85 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Rather disappointing.

I'd be in favor of a law requiring the labeling of such products, but this seems to overreach; especially when applied to animal feed.

[–] toothpaste_sandwich@feddit.nl 54 points 1 year ago

Successful lobbying by the meat industry, absolutely not in the public's best interest. Disgusting, really.

[–] octoperson@sh.itjust.works 42 points 1 year ago (2 children)

The proposal [prohibits] the use, sale, import and export of food and feed "from cell cultures or tissue derived from vertebrate animals".

Am I missing something, is it a translation issue, or did they just ban meat?

[–] capt_wolf@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's what you could argue, yes.

Since you can't get any "tissue" without deriving it from an animal.

Which would be the funnier solution... Well if you scientists and farmers can't get along, nobody gets meat! Good news everyone! You're all vegetarians now!

[–] atomicorange@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

Well invertebratarians anyway. Calamari’s still on the menu!

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It's a translation issue. "Derivanti" in Italian is translated as "derived", but the Italian word implies a new type of tissue and the English word does not.

[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 38 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Have they perfected lab-grown ketchup, because that burger looks dry AF.

But seriously, just another boneheaded, corporate masquerading as populist move. This doesn't protect consumers or farmers, it protects profits.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That pic does look a little dry, but I'm very much looking forward to lab grown burgers. I hope and expect moves such as this are temporary, and as technology and understanding improve, we'll get our cruelty-free and (presumably) lower environmental impact burgers. (And I'd expect texture, juicyness, etc to improve over time.)

I am not a vegetarian but I enjoy many of the vegetarian choices for meat, from original gardenburgers through very nearly every other similar product I've tried. (I have not tried anything from Impossible except their sausage on a sandwich from dunkin donuts) But while they are nearly all very good for their own sake, none that I've run across have been true replacements for a burger.

[–] rynzcycle@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Yeah, totally. Like any new product it will take some experimenting. I think I read it's exceptionally lean, but tender, more like veal minus the cruelty. I get why they went burger, but almost certain to have better uses (STEAK!).

Not a fan of most of the impossible stuff, still tastes too earthy, but I love seitan and good tofu used well.

Temporary or not, these sort of bans will delay the growth (pun not intended, but I'll take it) of these industries when time is of the essence. But Italy's government is not exactly forward thinking at the moment.

[–] Bernie_Sandals@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

iirc, it's basically the most lean meat you can get because they haven't done the whole growing fat thing yet, just the muscle.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Temporary or not, these sort of bans will delay the growth (pun not intended, but I'll take it) of these industries when time is of the essence.

That is a great point!

[–] bmsok@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Pregnenolone@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Protecting industries who prefer to complain rather than actually evolve with the times

[–] bmsok@lemmy.world -5 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] bmsok@lemmy.world -4 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Downvote if you want but at least educate me on why I'm wrong on facepalming. I'm serious. I love a good discussion.

[–] TheMorningStar@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Or you could educate us on why you're face-palming. Use your words.

[–] bmsok@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

Okay. My point is that methane (from cow farts) is a significant source of greenhouse gasses. If we can get high quality food without ruining the planet or the enjoyment of food then why shouldn't we go for it?

[–] geogle@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)
[–] Bonehead@kbin.social 4 points 1 year ago

Yes, that's likely one of the foods they are recreating in the lab.

Ridiculous...

[–] Dmian@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] DieguiTux8623@feddit.it 1 points 1 year ago

🤌🤌🤌

[–] Rayspekt@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago

Mamma Magalione!

[–] Cosmicomical@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

che enormi teste di cazzo