Watches

where citizen

Jacob & co is a “great” watch?

Panerai… crazy. Overpriced junk

- bang for buck

- seiko

not really. maybe 10 years ago but not today.

Certina?

I think you’re overstating the pricing for JLC. They’re significantly better watches/movements than what you have in the second grouping.

The price increases make them expensive at retail, but this is because they were “great deals” prior. Now they’re more appropriately priced which may be a turn off. However, they’re heavily discounted on the gray market bringing them within Omega’s pricing.

What about Tommy Hilfiger?

sinn should be in the just buy category.

After the incredible amount of reactions and feedback from the last tier list I created, I wanted to do an update based on comments that changed my mind and, hopefully, a better structuring of the tiers!

I put it in the description, but a reminder that this isn't a tier list to decide which brand is the most valuable, makes the best watch, is the best bang for buck. It's about what watches
people in a specific situation (which I imagine a fair number of watch enthusiasts fall into) should consider!

Argue away!

Sinn is def not a bang for buck and I am german living in Frankfurt 😭

RM over AP ? 😭😭😭

I like this list because all I own are grand seiko , omega and rolex.

$200k in Manhattan vs $200k in St. Louis are two very different things.one puts omega in play and the other does not.

IWC and Breitling are definitely within the price range of Omega and Cartier.

I'd consider taking Seiko out of the bang for the buck tier based on prices I've seen recently.

Couple of suggestions. I want so badly to love Junghans… I’ve owned half a dozen or so, but most have had at least one issue. Misaligned hands, poorly lubricated movements, screws missing on caseback, etc. While there is potential, I think they need to look into their QC before qualifying as a bang for buck watch. Yes they’re reasonably priced and look good, but only if they work. Second, and this I recognize is much more subjective, but I believe Autodromo belongs on this list under bang for buck. And before you start screaming at me about Miyota movements, I will defend them against the 2824 and Powermatic all day. Even if you disagree, and even if you disagree with the ethos or don’t love the designs, you gotta respect the execution, which, of the 5 I’ve owned, has been impeccable. And they actually hold most of their value, at least so far. I would put the execution as high as any brand south of Omega.

Great list over all! Agree with most of it overall.

-I personally would swap Tissot for Sinn in my list. Own a couple Sinn, I really like them but they have been whelming over the past 5 years unfortunately admittedly. Tissot has been hitting some grand slams in the last couple years, not just the PRX, but several other lineups have been steadily improved!

-AP I’d move up one row personally and maybe move J&co and Brequet down one row

Hahaha "Whelming"

I feel like Nomos should be in the tier above. They are cheaper but not cheap, especially for the mechanical ones. But their quality is outstanding. My Club Sport is sublime.

Piaget? Nope.

Zenith maybe, barely. Not as recognizable, but up there

You generally nailed the irresponsible cost row. Rolex for all their annoyance is not over expensive for many models MSRP

RIP my Versace watch collection 😭😭😭

Hublot - “why” lol

Cartier? Bro

Citizen. Seiko. Orient. The holy grail.

I’d put JLC and GO in the “ideal blend…” category

What is meant by whelming watches?? Genuinely interested, I never heard the term before.

I’ve always ignored Zodiac. With them being owned by Fossil I figured they were just rebranded fashion watches. Are they pretty decent for the price?

You forgot to add Fossil in the ‘Why’ section 🙃

This reads like cope, enjoy your Cartier/omega/grand seiko/zenith/piaget.

Such a list is pointless because it differs between everyone’s situation(and no, upper middle class with responsibilities is not specific).

Would add Laco and Stowa in bang for buck. Omega, zenith seem too expensive for truly middle class professional. For me that tops out at longines which isn't a bad place to be!

Where is citizen??

Absolutely a bizarre list but, NO. Horribly stated. Casio and Timex do not belong in the same category and the structure of this list is near disrespectful. Patek (although outrageously expensive) is far more than just an FU watch and rightfully so.

I could never buy a Zenith because of the word association to those crappy old tube TVs

And whenever I see Christopher Ward I think of that annoying IT guy that’s getting his first real watch because he realized that his Apple Watch didn’t actually help him get in shape. They’re interesting but to me they’re the Skechers of the watch world

Just my input into the few things I disagree with. But my favorite brands (Omega, Nomos, Oris, Junghans, Hamilton) are in here and exactly where I’d put them, so great job.

What about Vostok?

vostok is a glaring omission

I generally like this list.

I wish Sinn's 903 Navitimer had better attention to detail like actually make the slide rule hash marks line up flush. I would totally buy.

I also love Seiko and would put that in Just buy. You literally cannot go wrong.

Citizen should also go bang for buck tier and I want to see what people think of cult classic Vostok (love mine)