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[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 124 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (6 children)

Firefox is calling all of you.

We just added a “copy link without trackers” context menu option too ;)

[–] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 34 points 11 months ago

Big cocks at Firefox doing the lord's work once again

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] Bogasse@lemmy.ml 8 points 11 months ago

Well at this period of time one of the interns will have removed Firefox's user agent from the whitelist most Google services by mistake again.

If so, I just hope antitrust lawsuits will be fast enough so that it doesn't build up a bad reputation for Firefox ...

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 97 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Ad Blockers will limit Chrome usage starting June 2024.

[–] yimo@discuss.tchncs.de 45 points 11 months ago (2 children)

The long awaited Firefox domination of the market !

[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 21 points 11 months ago

Right in time for the year of Linux on the desktop!

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)
[–] WHYAREWEALLCAPS@kbin.social 30 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Users will limit Google Chrome starting June 2024.

[–] kokesh@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I already did.

[–] RickRussell_CA@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

I've been limiting Google Chrome for about 5 years now.

[–] MyDogLovesMe@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I’d be very curious how they are going to try and fuck over Firefox, or similar browsers.

It’s not “just business “, it’s personal. It’s all personal, Mike. You know who I learned that from? Your Father, the Godfather.

[–] PurpleTentacle@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Google's proposed "Web Integrity API" browser-DRM was probably the biggest attack on the open web since its conception. I don't think they have fully given up on that idea and they'll likely sneak it in more gradually and slowly. Manifest v3 is just a small baby step in this direction of taking away user control.

[–] Dicska@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The various websites will just say Firefox is "not supported". I just wrote this in another comment, but Twitch doesn't let you log in on FF because it has some kind of advanced tracking protection. I guess YouTube and the rest will just join the fuckery and block you from using their content if you're on FF. I mean, I really hope they won't do that, but knowing what degree of assholery these companies can pull off, I think it's the next step.

[–] there1snospoon@ttrpg.network 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

This is news to me. I log into twitch on FF all the time.

[–] Toes@ani.social 3 points 11 months ago

Same no problems here and I have those strict features enabled.

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[–] Im14abeer@midwest.social 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Presumably the FTC will have something to say about blatant anticompetitive actions such at these. Then again, that's why corporations buy themselves representatives, senators and judges.

Edit: such not suck

[–] meepmeep@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

I used to have that issue with Twitch and FF, the fix was to create a new Firefox profile :)

[–] rustyfish@lemmy.world 25 points 11 months ago

Oh ffs. FINE! I will switch away from Chrome!

[–] DeskP1loti@lemmy.world 24 points 11 months ago

what a bunch of cunts

[–] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Not surprising since Google is an ad company. I

Meanwhile I have been using Firefox on my various computers for a few years now.

[–] ARk@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago

Congratulations, you are being tailored a "personal experience"! Please do not resist.

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh no! There are literally zero other options but to use Chrome!

[–] OfficerBribe@lemm.ee 2 points 11 months ago

This impacts all Chromium based browsers. Unless support is maintained separately by browser vendor, only other option is Firefox or any of its forks.

This is kind of a time for Mozilla to shine, but I worry they will mess up and maybe even follow later.

[–] Cosmicomical@kbin.social 8 points 11 months ago

I limited google chrome a long time ago when i switched back to firefox for good

[–] Mandy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 11 months ago

I wonder if there ever will be a point where the mayor populous actually goes "screw this" and starts finding out how to change their browser via "how to change internet" or "how to change google"

will there ever be a point where this even happens i wonder, like at all

[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Firefox's decision to move to WebExtensions is starting to look even more questionable, IMO.

[–] TangledHyphae@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] FishFace@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

It was originally questionable because it completely hobbled extensions, and now Chrome is seeking to hobble the standard even more

[–] Enkers@sh.itjust.works 3 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

Yeah, perhaps not their greatest move ever. I miss how customizable Firefox used to be. For a long time I used Waterfox Classic to postpone the switch, but it got harder and harder. Now you have to use stuff like paxmod to get back some of the old features.

I don't know the internal technical issues too well, though, and they have made a lot of headway in the speed department since switching. I do recall discussion around when they dropped them about being held back by the addon architecture.

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[–] Species8472@discuss.tchncs.de 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

On mobile I'm using DDG as primary browser. Firefox as secondary.

On my personal machine it's Firefox and Chromium.

For my job I use Thorium as main (switched coming from Brave), Chrome, Firefox and Edge.

Could do without Chrome any day.

[–] PurpleTentacle@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

On mobile I'm using DDG as primary browser.

Don't get me wrong, DDG's app is a massive step up in privacy, but it's hardly a browser, it's simply a WebView frontend. You're pretty much still using Chrome.

[–] ComradeBunnie@aussie.zone 4 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I'm only using Chrome for work because the profile switching & syncing is so much smoother and our company is split into two primary brands - my brain handles it better with an individual browser profile for each.

We're consolidating everything into one next year, meaning I can ditch the second browser!

I've tried setting up a second profile but it was just too much effort to get it working and bring everything across from both, then do the same on my laptop for travel, so I'll just wait for now.

[–] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 2 points 11 months ago

I really don't understand why Mozilla doesn't add a profile switch icon in Firefox.

Most people probably have no idea that Firefox can do profiles or some of the stuff it can do with them (sync online, send tabs between devices etc.)

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[–] autotldr@lemmings.world 4 points 11 months ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


A year later, Google is restarting the phase-out schedule, and while it has changed some things, Chrome will eventually be home to inferior filtering extensions.

Google's blog post says the plan to kill Manifest V2, the current format for Chrome extensions, is back on starting June 2024.

The company says: "We expect it will take at least a month to observe and stabilize the changes in pre-stable before expanding the rollout to stable channel Chrome, where it will also gradually roll out over time.

On the high end now for me, Slack is drinking 500MB, while a single Google Chat tab, created by this company that is so concerned about performance, is at 1.5GB of memory usage.

Google is adding a completely arbitrary limit on how many "rules" content filtering add-ons can include, which are needed to keep up with the nearly infinite ad-serving sites that are out there (by the way, Ars Technica subscriptions give you an ad-free reading experience and make a great holiday gift!).

Mozilla's blog post on the subject promises "Firefox’s implementation of Manifest V3 ensures users can access the most effective privacy tools available like uBlock Origin and other content-blocking and privacy-preserving extensions."


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[–] BarbecueCowboy@kbin.social 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I know Firefox is the popular option here, but do we have any serious non-google managed Chromium based browser options out there that don't have some weird gimmick?

[–] threegnomes@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 11 months ago (4 children)
[–] Flaky@iusearchlinux.fyi 3 points 11 months ago

+1 for Vivaldi. If you remember old, Presto-era Opera you'll feel right at home with it. I know there are some people who moved from Firefox to it, too.

Only thing is, their integrated adblocker doesn't support cosmetic filtering right now, but it's in the works.

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[–] Infiltrated_ad8271@kbin.social 5 points 11 months ago

Brave leads chrome-based browsers in terms of privacy and security, as long as you don't mind its endless controversies.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.mindoki.com 2 points 11 months ago
[–] livus@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

That's okay. Literally the only thing I use chrome for is gmail.

[–] Sir_Kevin@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Try Thunderbird (desktop) and/or FairEmail (mobile).

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[–] sour@kbin.social 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

of seeings patturn

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