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Bit of a vague title, so let me elaborate.

I was watching one of Jay Maisel's videos with Scott Kelby (well worth seeing if you haven't seen them, each one is a goldmine of wisdom). If you're not familiar with Jay Maisel, then a) you should be, and b) he's now 92, so he would have easily been in his late 70s to early 80s in the Kelby videos. Put it this way, he's been around the block. And back. And got the t-shirt.

In the first video, he was using Nikon's 70-300 on a D3. Now this isn't even one of Nikon's top-tier lenses, and even when the video was made the D3 would have been around a bit, but the way he talked about them, you'd think they were made of gold dust. He referred to the lens as "having a 70, a 90, a 135, and a 180 all at once", and said that the D3 let him get shots that were completely impossible up to that point.

I would guess that, compared to the gear that he used at the start of his career, the D3 and 70-300 did indeed seem like alien technology.

Similarly, I've seen Joel Meyerowitz talk about cameras which, by spec sheet alone, are completely outgunned by newer models, but he sounds almost reverent when he discusses them. He's nearly as old as Jay.

This doesn't mean to suggest that the younger generation of photographers (and that's nearer to two or three generations, really) are unappreciative. That would be a gross over-generalisation, and there are likely people out there making spectacular pictures with very simple gear. But you wonder sometimes: every time a new camera comes out with a completely insane spec sheet, there are people who complain that it doesn't have X, Y, or Z. ("Eight stops of stabilisation? I will never buy their cameras again!")

What does everyone reckon? You don't have to specify your age if you don't want to, but I'm trying to get a feel for this. (I'm 50, and while I do find new technology in cameras interesting, I'm perfectly happy shooting a relatively simple camera as long as it has the essentials needed to take a picture).

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[–] incidencematrix@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

At this point, even a 10 year old entry level camera is vastly better than what most folks used to shoot with, and more than adequate for most purposes. New tech is nice, but if you feel that you can't be effective without it, you probably ought to go revisit your basic skills. Don't get me wrong, I like gear as much as the next person, but I observe that a non-vanishing number of folks think that it substitutes for effective art or technique; you get folks with $1k+ cameras dumping them because their photos aren't sharp. Those folks then run around telling newcomers that they need thousands of dollars in gear to even get started, which probably drives some folks away. Very annoying. Anyway, this is pretty ubiquitous, but you are probably more likely to hear it from a young person than someone who started on cheap film cameras and knows how far things have come.

[–] KidElder@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Retired and I have known for a long time that it's the person behind the camera that takes the great pictures and not the camera. A camera is nothing more than a tool and new ones just make your life easier so you spend more time with composition.

Example: I can do a focus stack hand held with my Z6 or I can carry a tripod around and manually do focus stacking. At my age, I don't enjoy carrying the extra weight, particularly trying to walk and climb along trails. Newer cameras allow me to do a lot more hand held and save physical wear and tear on me.

I absolutely do not enjoy having to carry a lot of weight to take images. When I started out over 30 years ago, I constantly carried 3 prime lens with me along with a tripod a lot of times. Even then my body would ache.

So the folks you watch can be reverent about the old cameras but I look for stuff to make my life easier and enjoy my surroundings. Currently own a Z6 with no plans to update unless a new Nikon offers something that definitely makes things easier for me to get the shot.

Old gear can be fun but I prefer looking forwards.

[–] Classic-Ad-4784@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

I am retired and started photography 45 years ago. Went fully digital in 2001. The last 8 years I shoot with Nikon 95%, the other camera;s being Fuji X10 and X100. I lo ve using the D7200, D600, D610 and D850. Sure they are big and heavy, I have Nikon battery grips on all 4, but a absolute joy to use. They all have minimal 150k clicks each left in them. As they stop working, I will upgrade to the Z system. Same goes for the glass ranging from 12 to 600mm. Camera's are just a tool, but tools need to be functioning perfectly. At the end of the day it is the photo that counts. There is no need to follow the hype and buy another "newest model". Have a look for Martin Castein on Youtube for using older camera's.

Good light to all!

[–] LiveMyLifeInTheBlack@alien.top 1 points 10 months ago

Personally, I have relatively little appreciation for all the bells and whistles of modern cameras. They are nice-to-haves, not essentials.

I shot film as a kid with a "focus-free" point-and-shoot with constant aperture and shutter speed. Then I moved onto a phone camera -- before phone cameras were even half-way decent. Then I had a tiny digital point and shoot which was a pain to use with its automatics fighting against you at every step.

So I do know a thing or two about shooting with equipment that just doesn't do what I need it to do. Now I have a modern mirrorless camera with all kinds of features, and a full-frame DSLR. But my favourite thing to shoot with is my 1970s Fujica ST801 with nothing but a light meter and manual controls.