Tasty_Comfortable_77

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[–] Tasty_Comfortable_77@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

100% hobbyist here.

A shot I think was great ten years ago might look pretty average now. But a shot I took ten years ago that I still think is great? Then it's great.

I couldn't put an exact number on it, but it's certainly less than ten percent of the shots I've ever taken, and that's quite a lot of photos. That doesn't mean that 90-plus percent of my shots are garbage (those get deleted). They're OK, they may even be good, but just not "great".

Joe McNally has a great phrase. If I remember right, he called it the "pucker factor" (try saying that fast). It's the feeling you get when you absolutely know beyond all doubt that you've taken a real cracker of a shot, and by that definition it is rare.

And if you evaluate too many of your shots as "great", then you have to raise your game to make "great" harder to get...

[–] Tasty_Comfortable_77@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Of the many combinations of words possible in the English language, I think "self-expression" must be the one that causes me to roll my eyes the most. It has absolutely no meaning at all, it's pretentious, and it's used as a cover for bad photography.

"This photo is exposed incorrectly, the horizon line is clearly slanted, the colour's off, and it's not even close to sharp"

"I don't care. That photo is me Expressing Myself"

"What do you mean by that exactly?"

"Just that. I'm Expressing Myself"

"Yeah, but how to you Express Yourself in a garbage picture?"

"Don't ask me questions, just let me Express Myself!"

[–] Tasty_Comfortable_77@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I'll have you know that I have received many Awards for my technically breathtaking pictures of brick walls!

[–] Tasty_Comfortable_77@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

You could remove "photo" from your question and it would still stand.

In almost any place where people gather - virtually or in real life - it is close enough to a certainty that at some point, however well-intentioned, well-moderated and well-meaning the place is, people will start being a**holes to each other.

I can think of exactly one place where this didn't happen, and that was on Ming Thein's site when it was running. The comments section of his articles (which was the closest thing the site had to a forum) was for the most part extremely cordial, or at least polite and respectful. Trolls and other such types were rare in the extreme. I can only guess that people were responding to talent and good writing.

But as a rule, yeah. It's like that old joke: God gave man religion, and then Satan came along and organised it. In this case it's like Tim Berners-Lee and the US military gave us the internet / web, and then people took this world-changing technology and used it to belittle each other over petty nonsense that means nothing.

Anyway, everyone knows that Canon cameras are garbage, I'm sorry, I said what I said, GTFOH, etc :-)

[–] Tasty_Comfortable_77@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

"It means artistic violation, kid, which is what you're about to do with that camera"

[–] Tasty_Comfortable_77@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

An excellent argument for regulation.

But on the other hand there are few things more fun to see than watching them crash and burn when they really do try and pull of a wedding with a kit lens and wonder why their client sues them.

[–] Tasty_Comfortable_77@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I have a few.

  1. People with no discernible talent deciding that they're important enough to teach "workshops" and "seminars". Don't misunderstand: there are people I would happily learn from, but they probably constitute 5% of the photographers out there who have the hubris to think that they have what it takes to tell other people how to shoot.

  2. People who pass AI generated art off as photography. AI generated art is a fascinating subject in itself, and should be treated entirely separately from photography.

  3. Brand tribalism. It's pathetic and sad.

  4. People who try to "buy skill". I remember this guy who had a photography themed blog for a while. He was clearly extremely wealthy (nothing wrong with that in and of itself), and he seemed to be of the opinion that if you have very expensive cameras and lenses, your photos will be amazing (he owned several Leica M rangefinders and the Noctilux 0.95). His own photos did an excellent job at disproving his theory.

 

Bit of a vague title, so let me elaborate.

I was watching one of Jay Maisel's videos with Scott Kelby (well worth seeing if you haven't seen them, each one is a goldmine of wisdom). If you're not familiar with Jay Maisel, then a) you should be, and b) he's now 92, so he would have easily been in his late 70s to early 80s in the Kelby videos. Put it this way, he's been around the block. And back. And got the t-shirt.

In the first video, he was using Nikon's 70-300 on a D3. Now this isn't even one of Nikon's top-tier lenses, and even when the video was made the D3 would have been around a bit, but the way he talked about them, you'd think they were made of gold dust. He referred to the lens as "having a 70, a 90, a 135, and a 180 all at once", and said that the D3 let him get shots that were completely impossible up to that point.

I would guess that, compared to the gear that he used at the start of his career, the D3 and 70-300 did indeed seem like alien technology.

Similarly, I've seen Joel Meyerowitz talk about cameras which, by spec sheet alone, are completely outgunned by newer models, but he sounds almost reverent when he discusses them. He's nearly as old as Jay.

This doesn't mean to suggest that the younger generation of photographers (and that's nearer to two or three generations, really) are unappreciative. That would be a gross over-generalisation, and there are likely people out there making spectacular pictures with very simple gear. But you wonder sometimes: every time a new camera comes out with a completely insane spec sheet, there are people who complain that it doesn't have X, Y, or Z. ("Eight stops of stabilisation? I will never buy their cameras again!")

What does everyone reckon? You don't have to specify your age if you don't want to, but I'm trying to get a feel for this. (I'm 50, and while I do find new technology in cameras interesting, I'm perfectly happy shooting a relatively simple camera as long as it has the essentials needed to take a picture).

[–] Tasty_Comfortable_77@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I see where you're coming from, and the condescension from many people here is predictable. But another way to see it: if you can't compose to save your life, if you don't understand colour, if you don't know what makes a photo interesting...then 120FPS and global shutter ain't going to help you.

All these incremental improvements do is make it easier to get certain kinds of pictures which were previously difficult, if not impossible, to get. That doesn't mean those pictures will be any good. It'll just be playing to the gallery. However, when you combine a photographer's eye with the possibility to get previously impossible shots, that's what justifies the new technology.

You pay peanuts, you get monkeys, as they say.

It would be fun to troll them back.

"Thank you for your enquiry. As you intend to get married at a church, the weather (sunny, cloudy, rainy,) will determine the equipment to be used, as well as the use or not of off-camera flash; similarly, it may be necessary to use a high ISO, necessitating the correct use of noise reduction later. Depending on various other factors, a wide angle zoom lens may be suitable, or, for other shots, a moderate tele lens. However, as you just offered an insulting amount of money for this service, I suggest you get your phone out and do it yourself. Sincerely..."

 

It's hard to scroll through the various social medias these days without encountering a photographer who can't wait to tell us, with a perfectly balanced combination of breathless excitement and faux humility, that they have been nominated for, or have won, An Award.

"I am deeply humbled to brag about winning the award for best nature photograph taken in August 2023 on a DSLR with between 24 and 36 megapixels and a zoom lens with a zoom ratio of more than 3 but less than 8 from the local newspaper, which has a circulation second only to the New York Times, well almost, I mean everyone I know reads it". That kind of stuff. (This then leads to them setting up their first Workshop or Seminar, or, if you're really lucky, One-to-One Class, with an Award-Winning Photographer!)

Maybe it's just me, but the various aspects of photography are satisfying enough in and of themselves. And recently, these "awards" are set up with so many categories that basically almost everyone who enters wins something. It's like if the IOC decided to add five new medals (how about, I don't know, copper, tin, plastic, recycled trash, and paper) so that nobody feels left out.

Added to this is the fact that, with the various generative AI programs out there (Midjourney, and so on), it's getting harder and harder to tell what was taken with a camera and what was created with a prompt, which renders these "awards" of even less importance, something I thought wasn't possible anyway.

So I guess I'm looking for counterarguments here: what possible purpose do these "awards" serve other than a) letting the people / organisation giving them out insinuate how magnanimous they are, and b) giving insecure and needy photographers a chance to announce to the world that they are now an Award Winning Photographer?

I've used Zenfolio as a blog for over ten years now, and I have so much material on there that it's not worth the effort to change. During a period when their website was behaving very erratically, I considered switching to a different place, but before I could get serious about it, they sorted the website out.

I put up a blog post roughly three weeks in every four, share links to my various social medias, and then focus on the next post. The numbers aren't of particular importance to me.

I'm not much of an expert in terms of making yourself famous, but from the photographic side of things: look into the genuine "top tier" photographers of animals and the outdoors and compare your photos to theirs. Be as brutally honest as possible with yourself. If you still think you've got what it takes, then you have to make people aware of who you are.

Google the names David Yarrow (mainly animals), Nick Brandt (same), Andy Rouse (animals and others), and Jay Dickman (animals and a lot of outdoors stuff), for starters.

The real photography elite can get deals with camera companies (Yarrow works with Nikon, Dickman with Olympus, etc.). But to get that far you have to not only be among the best of the best, you have to create a name, and that's the hard part. Most of these guys have been at it for decades. You have to think in terms of the long game if you're genuinely serious about doing it for a career. Also be aware that many working photographers will tell you that they only spend about 20 per cent of their time shooting, and the rest basically hustling, chasing payments, and all kinds of other boring admin stuff.

So start with an honest analysis of your abilities, and go from there.

[–] Tasty_Comfortable_77@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I like comments which both make a valid point and also stir up a hornet's nest!

 

Although the megapixel fetish race is the one that gets the most attention, I think the ISO equivalent is also pretty amusing (in a "shakes head, looks baffled" kind of way).

Now, I should preface all this by mentioning that I don't have a "genre" of photography. I just photograph whatever attracts my attention at any given time, and that can be day or night.

Recently I saw a camera review in which the reviewer was showing pictures captured at ISOs that would have been considered witchcraft even ten years ago. They looked like garbage - noisy as anything and generally an aesthetic mess. But apparently the fact that they were taken at stratospheric ISO levels means that the whole world must see them because, I don't know, reasons.

Although I've used cameras that are well known for good high ISO performance, a look through my Google photos collection shows me that I almost never go beyond ISO 3200, and I would guess that less than 5% of my (tens of thousands of) photos are shot at that sensitivity. On a usual day, I find that if I have a fast lens (F2 or quicker), I can get almost anything I want to shoot without going past ISO 800, or 1600 in a pinch.

I'd be interested to hear from people who do use these 5-or-6 digit ISOs on a regular basis, and what they shoot that necessitates these ISOs. Let's hear some thoughts.

 

My social media is geared towards photography, and after looking at a lot of it, I've realised that there are some themes which are so over-done that it's very, very unusual to see an original, interesting or different take on them. Few examples:

Sunrises / sunsets. I mean, there must be hundreds of thousands of these taken every day, and most people seem to think that "there's no such thing as too much saturation". Genuinely can't remember the last time I saw one that made me stop and look at it and think "this photographer has managed to make this stand out", other than in the wrong way.

Long exposure night shots. Stopped being interesting after about the 5th one with the whirly stars and single tree. Similarly, long exposures of cars with the trailing lines. Last time I saw that done well was by an entire team who were using the best medium format digital cameras of the era, AND a drone. They put a ton of effort into it and it was actually pretty awesome. But that's very much the exception.

Conversely, I still see the odd portrait which manages to stand out, be it as a result of exceptional composition, clever lighting, good posing, unusual props or background, etc.

What are the themes that you think are getting harder and harder to do with any level of novelty?

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