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[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 107 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So, in short:

  • Google is not killing ad blockers, but merely chopping off both legs and arms in the name of security.
  • ublock Origin is implementing a lite version for chromium browsers, supposedly being pretty decent given the circumstances.
  • Old Manifest V2 extensions will be disabled in June 2024 and Manifest V2 will be removed in June 2025.
  • Firefox is Firefox.
  • Privacy and security focused chromium based browsers will have to implement proper native ad blocking.
[–] Kumabear@lemmy.world 98 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

I am now using Firefox…

I mean I was using Firefox before this, but I also am now as well you know.

[–] lando55@lemmy.world 53 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I used to use Firefox.

I still do, but I used to too.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 6 points 10 months ago
[–] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 83 points 10 months ago (1 children)

People are fighting ads and switching browsers.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 30 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (3 children)
[–] teft@startrek.website 99 points 10 months ago (4 children)

Switching to what? Firefox. I don’t see the problem here. Install Firefox and forget those monopolistic enshitifying fucks.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 9 points 10 months ago

I went from Netscape to Mozzila and from Mozilla to Firefox and, guess what... my browser never fucked me up in the name of maximizing corporate profits.

Google was already a wholly untrustworth Ad Company With A Tech Arm back when they invented Chrome, and shit like this was already back then a question of WHEN, not IF.

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[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 29 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

For anyone interested, as of November 2023:

Web browsers using Gecko (Firefox's engine): GNU IceCat, Waterfox, K-Meleon, Lunascape, Portable Firefox, Conkeror, Classilla, TenFourFox. Edit: and Fennec

Web browsers using the Goanna engine (which is a fork of Gecko): Pale Moon, Basilisk.

Flow is a web browser with its own proprietary browser engine.

The other active engines listed are: WebKit (Apple's engine), and Blink (Google's engine, which they forked off of WebKit, and which is used for Chrome, Chromium, and countless other browsers).

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

I'd no idea there's a browser called Conkeror. That's prertty funny since WebKit was based off of KHTML used in KDE's Konqueror browser.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Fennec is also using Gecko.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 3 points 10 months ago
[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I use firefox, but Id never head of these alternatives.

Anyone who does have reviews? Pros, cons, reasons to use them beside variety?

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[–] Blorper59@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago

I thought it was pronounced Kay Melly-on, so I never tried it because of the silly name.

Pihole will be unaffected.

[–] helenslunch@feddit.nl 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Every other Google Chromium fork will need to maintain an increasingly complex set of changes to the Google repository

Yet infinitely easier than building a new browser from the bottom up

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (14 children)
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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 73 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Here's what happening to me: I went to Firefox.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well, you say that, but this is what happened to me: I went to Firefox.

[–] Snowcano@startrek.website 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I, too, happened to me: Firefox.

[–] Cralex@lemm.ee 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I was using Firefox back when it was cool. And now it'll be cool again.

[–] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I used Firefox before chrome even was a thing and never moved away. Fuck chrome.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I briefly lived in the dark side of IE6 because AOL fucked over the Netscape browser so badly. But then I came back like the prodigal son when Firefox (then Firebird) came along.

[–] legios@aussie.zone 3 points 10 months ago

Yeah I remember IE5 and NS4, as well as the Firebird/Phoenix/Firefox naming joys back in the day.

If you want to blow your brains out, try getting XHTML 1.1 working in IE6. It is indeed possible if you modify the XHTML DTD. Interestingly it'd render shit so much better since it'd use MSXML instead of Trident as the rendering engine. Sadly it would add about 400k to the page since it needed to load a custom DTD...

[–] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

You're an even older user than me then lol. I think it was '08 or '09 when I started using the internet.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

We're all in this together, brother.

[–] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Hell yeah! They can take Firefox out of my cold dead hands.

[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I went to Firefox when Chrome had that huge memory leak issue.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 54 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Thanks to Lemmy, I’m browsing on Firefox on Linux Arch…

[–] badmemes@feddit.de 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago (1 children)
[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Did you install Arch on your mac?

[–] SaintWacko@midwest.social 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Hm, should I try switching my old Surface Pro 3 from PopOS to Arch?

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

Try Hanna Montana first.

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 20 points 10 months ago

Google's ads can lick my nads.

[–] holdthecheese@lemmy.world 14 points 10 months ago

Interesting that article comes to the conclusion that uBlockOrigin Lite is basically as effective as the original and works on the new Manifest v3.

[–] pirat@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago

When I went to read the comments of this post, and for some reason it took 10 sec for them to show up in my client, I thought of Google...

[–] sulsaz@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

I am forever grateful for my father having Firefox installed on the xp hand-me-down that became my first computer

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