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[–] ekky@sopuli.xyz 107 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

So, in short:

  • Google is not killing ad blockers, but merely chopping off both legs and arms in the name of security.
  • ublock Origin is implementing a lite version for chromium browsers, supposedly being pretty decent given the circumstances.
  • Old Manifest V2 extensions will be disabled in June 2024 and Manifest V2 will be removed in June 2025.
  • Firefox is Firefox.
  • Privacy and security focused chromium based browsers will have to implement proper native ad blocking.
[–] Kumabear@lemmy.world 98 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I am now using Firefox…

I mean I was using Firefox before this, but I also am now as well you know.

[–] lando55@lemmy.world 53 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I used to use Firefox.

I still do, but I used to too.

[–] Alto@kbin.social 6 points 11 months ago
[–] FlavoredButtHair@lemmy.world 83 points 11 months ago (1 children)

People are fighting ads and switching browsers.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 30 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (18 children)
[–] teft@startrek.website 99 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Switching to what? Firefox. I don’t see the problem here. Install Firefox and forget those monopolistic enshitifying fucks.

[–] LWD@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)
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[–] Aceticon@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

I went from Netscape to Mozzila and from Mozilla to Firefox and, guess what... my browser never fucked me up in the name of maximizing corporate profits.

Google was already a wholly untrustworth Ad Company With A Tech Arm back when they invented Chrome, and shit like this was already back then a question of WHEN, not IF.

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[–] ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (4 children)

For anyone interested, as of November 2023:

Web browsers using Gecko (Firefox's engine): GNU IceCat, Waterfox, K-Meleon, Lunascape, Portable Firefox, Conkeror, Classilla, TenFourFox. Edit: and Fennec

Web browsers using the Goanna engine (which is a fork of Gecko): Pale Moon, Basilisk.

Flow is a web browser with its own proprietary browser engine.

The other active engines listed are: WebKit (Apple's engine), and Blink (Google's engine, which they forked off of WebKit, and which is used for Chrome, Chromium, and countless other browsers).

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

I'd no idea there's a browser called Conkeror. That's prertty funny since WebKit was based off of KHTML used in KDE's Konqueror browser.

[–] viking@infosec.pub 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Fennec is also using Gecko.

[–] wildginger@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I use firefox, but Id never head of these alternatives.

Anyone who does have reviews? Pros, cons, reasons to use them beside variety?

[–] krakenx@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago

Pale Moon still supports the even older extension model. I used it briefly until my extensions got updated to the newer format. I still kinda miss the old theme engine.

[–] Blorper59@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

I thought it was pronounced Kay Melly-on, so I never tried it because of the silly name.

Pihole will be unaffected.

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 73 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Here's what happening to me: I went to Firefox.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well, you say that, but this is what happened to me: I went to Firefox.

[–] Snowcano@startrek.website 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I, too, happened to me: Firefox.

[–] Cralex@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I was using Firefox back when it was cool. And now it'll be cool again.

[–] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I used Firefox before chrome even was a thing and never moved away. Fuck chrome.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I briefly lived in the dark side of IE6 because AOL fucked over the Netscape browser so badly. But then I came back like the prodigal son when Firefox (then Firebird) came along.

[–] legios@aussie.zone 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah I remember IE5 and NS4, as well as the Firebird/Phoenix/Firefox naming joys back in the day.

If you want to blow your brains out, try getting XHTML 1.1 working in IE6. It is indeed possible if you modify the XHTML DTD. Interestingly it'd render shit so much better since it'd use MSXML instead of Trident as the rendering engine. Sadly it would add about 400k to the page since it needed to load a custom DTD...

[–] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You're an even older user than me then lol. I think it was '08 or '09 when I started using the internet.

[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

We're all in this together, brother.

[–] glorious_albus@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Hell yeah! They can take Firefox out of my cold dead hands.

[–] guacupado@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

I went to Firefox when Chrome had that huge memory leak issue.

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Thanks to Lemmy, I’m browsing on Firefox on Linux Arch…

[–] badmemes@feddit.de 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] elbarto777@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Did you install Arch on your mac?

[–] SaintWacko@midwest.social 3 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Hm, should I try switching my old Surface Pro 3 from PopOS to Arch?

[–] LazaroFilm@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Try Hanna Montana first.

[–] ArugulaZ@kbin.social 20 points 11 months ago

Google's ads can lick my nads.

[–] holdthecheese@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago

Interesting that article comes to the conclusion that uBlockOrigin Lite is basically as effective as the original and works on the new Manifest v3.

[–] pirat@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

When I went to read the comments of this post, and for some reason it took 10 sec for them to show up in my client, I thought of Google...

[–] sulsaz@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

I am forever grateful for my father having Firefox installed on the xp hand-me-down that became my first computer