The Stockholm syndrome is strong with this thread
Digital Nomads
Try Texas! Land of rugged individualism & freedom. A cancer diagnosis here, no problem, just file bankruptcy and lose your house plus anything you wanted to leave your children.
Speaking of children, the kids here get trained in school for what to do in case of a crazed shooter. I say well trained, but it never works -- the shooter always kills a bunch of them. The main effect of the training is to traumatize them & give them bad dreams.
You can carry a gun here, like openly wild west style. My mechanic accidentally pointed his at me when he was removing his holster belt. Thrilling!
Want a college education? You can absolutely have it here if your parents are rich or if you don't mind going into crippling predatory lending debt. People are often paying these loans into their 60's.
We have great roads, but be prepared to pay $150+ plus in tolls per month if you use them routinely.
Hope you don't need an abortion. You'll need to go out of state as it's illegal.
Our governor is kind of a monster, we've decided to find it charming. He didn't make sure to take care of the electric grid infrastructure and the Texas Tribune estimates 900 Texans froze to death one winter, although that's higher than official numbers.
Lots of people here pay 25-40% in federal taxes, btw.
Tons of Scandinavians in Thailand obviously but mostly of the old retired variety. One nice thing here is no property taxes unless you are renting your place out. That bothered me in the US, in some places you pay so much in property taxes but there's no guarantees: you may or may not get public trash pickup, you may or may not be connected to the public sewer systems (i.e. need a private septic system), cops & fire can take 1+ hour unless it's life threatening, sometimes they don't come at all, roads aren't guaranteed to be good quality just because property taxes are high, etc.
Well. Half to the gov, the other half to ex wife as alimony. Haha, the life!
Based on most of your comments, Mogadishu. Little to no taxes (mostly sales tax), you get almost exclusively ONLY what YOU pay for.
????? you guys are paying taxes to more than one country?????? how
i thought the whole point was to country hop as a visitor/tourist
Bro, i know and feel your pain. Finally got rid of it. DM me if you want some serious help.
I met a lot of people in Paraguay like you. It definitely attracts the ‘libertarian’ types.
I keep hearing more and more about Paraguay as a good place for taxes.
Anyone able to share more info on how taxes work there and why it's a popular choice?
You must be of immigrant background. Danish people usually are ok with the high tax because how efficient their government utilizes it.
They complain!
USA
Fuck Dubai, why would you even consider that place?
No real suggestions (I've heard New Zealand comes close, but have no actual data), but I am so glad you posted this if only to shut up the whiny Americans who point to Scandinavian countries as utopian examples of "if they have free healthcare, why can't we?!" Nothing's free. I've pointed out elsewhere that Denmark, also Finland and I think Sweden, take half your paycheck to take care of other people before you can take care of your own family. I mean, if that floats your boat, have at it, but I've been bullied on other subs for having the gall to point this out. Like there's something wrong with someone who isn't glad to, as you put it, hand over half your salary to the government each month. I stand in solidarity with you. Let us know what you decide!
Thanks for the insight Beth.
You are absolutely right, most people have no idea how it is to live here. It’s absolutely insane, prices and taxation on everything.
The keyboard warriors are sitting either jobless or unemployed attacking the hard working people tbat is contributing to society. Whatever that means.
I am done living my life for the sake of others, paying 50% just to see the government send another billion to Ukraine.
Just drained and sad tbh. There must be more to life than this, sad and pathetic country.
Thanks for the affirmation, Malik. You mention Portugal as a candidate for your next stop. I'm toying with retiring there. What data do you have on it?
Even if I didn't mind letting the government take half my pay, Scandinavia, Finland, and Estonia are out just because of the weather.
You mention Portugal as a candidate for your next stop. I'm toying with retiring there.
Please do not come to Portugal. With your mindset, we do not want you here.
Same boat here in Belgium. My taxes pay for lots of peoples kids (none myself) and was told that's one of the perks of living here. As a single childless person - the taxes are brutal.
I've wanted to ask this question before because not all of us want to live in these places with high taxation. Some of us would love to have savings. Or own a house.
These people downvoting you and OP are those basement dwellers who get rock hard off righteousness.
Try the good ol' USA. Low tax rates and lots of job opportunities. We borrow from our future instead of taxing appropriate rates now.
Mexico is not far off from being a libertarian dream. Of course you’re trading freedom for security, but I believe those to be mutually exclusive.
It really is a beautiful country with beautiful people. And you can live anywhere from a high tech penthouse in a modern city to a shack in the jungle.
If you live in a big city you pay more taxes and higher prices in exchange for better infrastructure. Also laws and rules are more likely to be enforced, which can be seen as a good thing or a bad thing.
If you live in a rural area there is not really any enforcement of laws other than murder unless you are involved in drug or human trafficking, which for me is perfect. Where I live few people have drivers licenses or tags on their cars and motorcycles. Most businesses pay their employees cash to avoid taxes. No building permits or engineering documentation to build or add to your house.
It’s pretty great.
Dubai probably still the best deal since it’s 0% and you can establish tax residency within 3 months, then travel the rest of the year (that’s what I do).
Yeah but then you have to live in a city which is actively being built on the back of slaves.
Just establish tax residency in Paraguay and go live where ever you want
Go to the Philippines. Lower taxes, and good quality of life outside Manila as long as you have a house, car, and lots of money.
Just be careful with getting sick or accidents because your savings will run out after a trip to the hospital (even with insurance) 😂
Also, don’t expect good functioning social benefits anywhere.
If you earn under 85k € in Italy, as a contractor (partita iva) you get a flat tax. You pay like 25 % Total, including social security ( hospital and everything).
You can live with half the Money you spend in Denmark I assume.
Maybe some small city near Venice (Bassano del Grappa come to my mind, they have cowork, good vibe-Diesel Company Hq).
Or going to Sicily, Costiera Amalfitana... But It would be for sure a culture shock. Less pricey, weak infrastructures.
Under 85k€ per year, freelancer and permission to work in the EU?
In Italy your taxes would roughly halve, cost of living would be lower and if you move to central/south Italy winters will be much less of an issue (or tbh, a place like Genova or Trieste could also work).
Bansko, Bulgaria.
Denmark is beautiful. Such a fantastic place. But yes, the taxes are very high. At least you get what you pay for.
Did you not notice before you went there? In Nord countries our taxes are famously high.
Hey why Dubai? The women there has no freedom and alcohol is banned.
In all my years nomading, I’ve never actually met a single scandinavian person who felt happy living there. But hey! Those happiness indexes always puts them at the top. Always felt such bs. Country where half the years sun doesn’t shine? Happy? Yeah, sure.
If your sample consists of nomads, is that really surprising? Like if I was happy in the US I wouldn’t be in South America right now.
Yeah, that could be a flawed sample I guess.
probably cuz the ones that are happy do not leave the place where they are happy?? and the want they arent go nomading ???
The lack of needing to survive allows one to pursue it’s own happiness, if he can’t find satisfaction in a wealthy and safe space to me it doesn’t seem like he can find it somewhere else, the grass will always be greener in another place
Really? Because I've met plenty here in Norway that are quite happy here. Very few that say otherwise.
Singapore has pretty low income tax and very high quality of public services and infrastructure. So the taxes are pretty bang for your buck. The cost of living is high in terms of rental and car ownership, but food can be really cheap. It is summer year round, which I dislike but seems like something you may like. I don't think there's any sort of digital nomad visa currently, however.
OP wants freedom and is considering Dubai LOL
In Poland you can pay 5% tax if you work in IT.
So how does this work if I work remotely for a company outside of Poland and just want to reside there. Do I still have to pay Polish tax? How would they know where I work?
Cyprus is a well known place for online criminality. I wouldn’t go there.
What are taxes like for expats living/working in the places throughout the UAE?
If you do leave the country, wouldn't you still have the same tax situation? How do you see DN as helping you to avoid paying the taxes?
lol me and you both