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My brother in-law and I often argue whether Booker or Tatum is better than another. It’s not the best argument because we’re both extremely biased, him being a Celtics and Duke fan and I’m a lifelong Suns fan. I also know it’s difficult to compare the two because they play different positions and roles on their respective teams.

That’s why I wanted to ask y’all, why is Tatum or Booker better than the other?

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[–] Mother_Fix231@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Obviously it’s the mystical and all-powerful BOSTON SPORTS MAFIA helmed by DON BILL SIMMONS mind melding people into believing that Tatum is better at defense or something…

[–] OpportunitySmalls@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you finish 3rd place MVP you have an argument for top 3, if you have one of the best game 7s ever and a half decade of ECFs you're probably pretty good and too many people rate Booker comfortably out of the top 10 because of his early career lack of any team success.

[–] defiantcross@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

booker was top 4 in mvp himself.

[–] Slash-Emperor@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I think currently they're around the same tier Tatum is just being rated higher cause he has better defense

[–] erog84@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Because Tatum is just better. Anyone watching the past few seasons can see that. Dbook took a big step up recently which puts him just under Tatum but he still hasn’t matched him. If book keeps up this play all season and they go far in playoffs with him playing well then we can revisit the conversation. Sure book did awesome last year… but Tatum has also been deep playoff runs for years now.

[–] jtrams5@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Book is in a weird spot for these comparisons, but people love to do them. To me, he has clearly jumped well ahead of the group he used to be compared to (Klay, Lavine, Mitchell). I think he is closing the gap but hasnt done enough to reach the next tier (Luka, Tatum). So he gets these comparisons that feel way too low or way too high.

I honestly think the correct comparison group are younger players who in my opinion havent caught him yet (Shai, Ant and Fox). IMO, Book should be considered the better player, but that is the next wave of guards.

[–] IronicHours@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Tatum is not in that Luka tier. Luka belongs to the tier with Steph Jokic Giannis and KD. Tatum is a fair bit below that

[–] honestnbafan@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Jokic and Giannis are both a clear tier above Luka

[–] NewChemistry5210@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, deep playoff runs are about the team, not the individual (if you ignore Lebron in 2018 or Kawhi in 2019). Especially with someone like Tatum, who had some awful series in the past few seasons.

[–] defiantcross@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

i argue that booker is becoming not just slightly better on offense, but significantly better due to the development on playmaking since last year's playoffs which has continued so far this year. if he can keep scoring efficiently as well as run the offense, his advantage on offense can be as big or bigger than Tatum's on defense.

plus, in today's league offense just matters more anyway.

[–] 11x_dev@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

id argue that booker is more consistent especially in the playoffs

tatum put up 14 points in two of the most important games against the heat last playoffs

[–] jambr380@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

As others have mentioned, defense is a huge factor, as well as health. Also, I am not sure of Booker's on/off numbers, but Tatum's are insane. People always talk about the talent around Tatum, but once he is off the court, the team completely crumbles. And when he is on, no matter who is out there with him, they excel.

Booker is an extremely talented player - maybe even slightly better offensively - but he doesn't quite have that heliocentrism of the league's other superstars that Tatum has seemingly developed.

[–] 0percentwinrate@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] Rackcity999@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

the are 7-1 with booker this year. before book came they looked like a play in team

[–] Rrypl@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Because one guy is a borderline elite wing defender on track to become the #2 playoff scorer in the history of the NBA and the other is Devin Booker.

[–] amr1115@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

becoming “on track” to be one of the leading playoff scores isn’t that much of a flex cuz he’s been on a playoff caliber team every year of his career

[–] AusSac@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Boston Media Mafia

[–] illzkla@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Booker is a baby face but Tatum is an actual baby

[–] omgwtfhax2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Why do you care?

There are two players in the NBA that have fans OBSESSED with their ranking amid other players and nobody else really cares. Shut up about Devin Booker and Trae Young, nobody cares about their arbitrary rankings. Fans of these two players are obsessed with spamming threads about them though. Do you not understand nobody else really cares?

[–] FrnklndaTurtle@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago
[–] John_Lives@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I like Booker more personally

[–] Plugherholes@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Tatum Plays Defense

[–] chickenripp@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

per 100 possessions booker is 43.6 8.1 12.7 on 51.3/45.2/92.3 shooting splits with 1.3 steals and .6 blocks. with an offensive rating of 130 and a defensive rating of 116

per 100 possessions Tatum is 36.8 11.8 5.4 on 49.9/36.5/81.2 shooting splits with 1.5 steals and .5 blocks. with an offensive rating of 118 and a defensive rating of 107

so yes tatum's defense is better. but booker is on a whole other level offensively right now. and when you combine that with the playoffs last year when booker was way better than everyone in the league except jokic it becomes clear that booker is the better player as of now. the only person with more points per 100 better than booker is embiid and booker has a 4% better TS% and a 6% better eFG% than embiid. he's also 5th in assists per 100. booker is not only the best SG in the league but he's a top 3 PG in the league.

The only reason people think Tatum is better is narrative over their careers, Boston media mafia/east coast bias, 3 inches of height, and an improper understanding of how big the gap is between the 2 offensively and defensively. The offensive gap is way bigger than people think and the defensive gap is smaller than what people thing (though still a decent sized gap).

[–] Low-iq-haikou@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Defense and rebounding. I think Booker is slightly better on offense though.

[–] DjLionOrder@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

How many of these do we need? I’m telling y’all, chill tf out

[–] DonePlaying88@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Booker is much better on offense. Tatum has a horrific mid range game and his 3pt is shot is not falling its over. Booker can score from anywhere is a superior passer. Tatum is much better defender due to his size. Slight edge to Tatum overall due to defense.

[–] Efficient_Art_1144@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

I think availability has something to do w it too. Tatums rarely out

[–] EnvironmentalAsk4246@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Because boston

[–] defiantcross@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (2 children)

tatum is better so far, but remind me after this season to see how Booker has developed as point guard. if he succeeds, he can potentially leap Tatum, who seems to have peaked in terms of development.

[–] Brock-Leigh@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

What in the world would make you think Tatum has peaked in development??

[–] defiantcross@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

what has Tatum added to his game in the last 3 years or so? he already had the scoring and defense.

[–] Calexander3@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

The numbers you presented shows that Booker is much better thus far this season, no? I’m taking the higher ppg and assists with a better ts% and +/-.

[–] ImTheBestNerd@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Idk Bookers clearly better

[–] P_O_L_L_Y@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Because he plays for the Celtics and Boston owns the NBA storylines.

It’s all a fucking BMM sham

[–] SuckaFreeRIP@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

He shouldn’t be

[–] KarlTuckerson@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Winning. Book dropped 70 in a game they lost in a blowout and they were celebrating like they won. Lost a lotta respect for him that day, as did buncha other bball fans.

Tatum has been winning since he came into the league, day 1 and onward. Tatum is in pace to surpass LBJ in terms of career playoff games.

[–] hoopbag33@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It's not that difficult. One plays defense and the other doesn't

[–] Deep_Egg1442@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They value tatum defense. I think book offensively is better tho

[–] C0WM4N@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

It’s not a secret Bookers one of the most hated players in the league

[–] JaylenBrownFlow@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

tatum is better than booker sorry to tell you

[–] midnightbluesky_2@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

They’re my two favorite players. Booker is better in the midrange and as a passer, but tatum is a better rebounder, defender and has improved getting to the rim this season. I think Tatum impacts games more.

[–] ThriceAlmighty@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Everyone knows /r/NBA shits on Booker all the time. Add in the number of Boston fans lurking all over this post and you're going to get the majority leaning Tatum. This is the biggest misconception in the league. Booker is a better player this season as of today. But it's not worth arguing with most of y'all who have it twisted when it comes to Devin.