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A music and science lover has revealed that some birds can store and retrieve digital data. Specifically, he converted a PNG sketch of a bird into an audio waveform, then tried to embed it in the song memory of a young starling, ready for later retrieval as an image. Benn Jordan made a video of this feat, sharing it on YouTube, and according to his calculations, the bird-based data transfer system could be capable of around 2 MB/s data speeds.

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[–] ISOmorph@feddit.org 177 points 1 month ago (17 children)

In before EU genocides all starlings because you can't put backdoors in them to scan for CSAM.

[–] PhobosAnomaly@feddit.uk 88 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Well, technically it has a built in backdoor...

[–] hoch@lemmy.world 87 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] YiddishMcSquidish@lemmy.today 11 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Do not what the bird?

Complement?

Conflagrate?

Carry in a cute baby stroller?

[–] ToastedRavioli@midwest.social 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

More of a front and back door, if my understanding of a cloaca is correct

[–] unwarlikeExtortion@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Last time I checked, cloaca was just the back. It is the everything door, though.

[–] einkorn@feddit.org 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Well, technically the beak connects directly to the cloaca.

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[–] Korkki@lemmy.ml 127 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Imagine the possibilities for piracy and secure messaging (provided that the birds don't snitch on you).

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 30 points 1 month ago (1 children)

If you take control of enough birdhouses you can launch DDoS attacks.

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[–] khannie@lemmy.world 72 points 1 month ago (5 children)

2MB/s / 16Mbps is enough for 4K HEVC video and audio. In theory you could encode a full movie with enough starlings.

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 52 points 1 month ago (1 children)

And they say physical media is dead!

[–] Tikiporch@lemmy.world 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The average lifespan of a starling is usually between two and five years.

[–] Cort@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

This just gave me an idea for a new movie rental service. You'll never own anything. If we can get homing pigeons to learn movies, we could cut delivery costs

[–] brsrklf@jlai.lu 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

They tried to make this a thing once :

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flexplay

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DVD-D

If Disney did this, they'd probably just poison the birds so they die faster.

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[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 33 points 1 month ago

A million monkeys on typewriters is old news. Now we're gonna teach a million starlings to play back the entire bee movie.

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[–] RunJun@lemmy.dbzer0.com 66 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Reducing Benn Jordan down to just “enthusiast” is wild.

[–] Psaldorn@lemmy.world 27 points 1 month ago

Musician/Wizard/Activist

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[–] Vespair@lemmy.zip 61 points 1 month ago

We're finally getting tweets back

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 51 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Quick, someone teach it the soundtrack to Doom

[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 28 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Can you run Doom on it tho?

[–] cheese_greater@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)
[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Alfred Hitchcock's "The Birds" just got a whole lot worse.

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[–] muzzle@lemmy.zip 41 points 1 month ago

This is a whole new twist over RFC 1149: IP over Avian Carriers

[–] YesButActuallyMaybe@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

Hear me out! Bird factor authentication!

Please honk your seagull to unlock your ed25519-sk ssh key

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[–] rizzothesmall@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Some people will use anything but cloud storage

[–] thedruid@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago

But. I mean. The data COULD reach the clouds I mean... Bird....

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[–] pineapplelover@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 1 month ago

Well of course NSA's spy device can store information. We've known this for decades

[–] Gerudo@lemmy.zip 27 points 1 month ago (3 children)
[–] gedaliyah@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago

This only seems to support the theory

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[–] ScrotusMaximus@lemmy.zip 24 points 1 month ago (1 children)

good to see there are new developments in the IP Over Avian Carrier space

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[–] xc2215x@lemmy.world 23 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Data on a bird ? This will convince people about birds being drones more now.

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[–] gozz@lemmy.world 20 points 4 weeks ago (12 children)

Not to be a wet blanket, but every time this comes up I get annoyed by some factual inaccuracies in the articles about this. It is not digital! He drew an image on a computer, but converted it to an analogue spectrogram to store on the bird. That's neat as hell, but it's not digital. The image that he got back was slightly corrupted.

Now I would be fascinated to see a follow-up seeing if you can actually modulate a digital signal and have is survive a round trip through the bird bit-for-bit accurate. I suspect in reality it would be much lower data rate, but definitely not nothing!

[–] CookieOfFortune@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

By your definition nothing can be digital since the world is analog. Even the bits in your CPU are voltages in transistors. As such, every real life signal can be distorted.

[–] Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 4 weeks ago (8 children)

The point with digital transfers is that you round it back to either 0 or 1, hoping that no bits are distorted enough to have any loss at all.

[–] gozz@lemmy.world 11 points 4 weeks ago (9 children)

Exactly. Digital logic, when implemented in analogue, generally have to have forbidden zones where a signal in that range is considerer invalid. Regardless of implementation, digital is about the discretized logic of the system. That is explicitly the whole point of digital: Minor analogue distortion does not change the information content of the signal unless it is so bad as to flip a bit.

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[–] salty_chief@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

Birds are the OG text device. Tie a little note and send them on their way.

One famous example is Cher Ami, a pigeon who delivered a message that saved a group of surrounded American soldiers during WW1.

Edit: WW1 and WW3 /s

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[–] DeathByBigSad@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Me, everytime I see a bird:

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago

better than me:

[–] Cocopanda@lemmy.world 17 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Birds are totally organic organisms. Rightttttt. BIRDS ARENT REAL!!!!

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 15 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)

Inb4 Doom can now run on birds.

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[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 11 points 4 weeks ago* (last edited 4 weeks ago)

Only a matter of time before megacorps put ads and a subscription service on bird calls, now. 😫

[–] magikmw@piefed.social 11 points 1 month ago

The video is by Benn Jordan, I wholeheartedly recommend this video and entire channel. Guy is a world treasure.

[–] InvalidName2@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

While it sounds great in practice, I find it suspicious that they never mention the the final bill.

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[–] Hatsune_Miku@lemmy.world 9 points 4 weeks ago (1 children)
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[–] SabinStargem@lemmy.today 8 points 4 weeks ago (4 children)

?Fun? fact: In a steampunk world, birds would serve as CPUs. America experimented with using pigeons for bomb guidance. As it turned out, three birds pecking at an image had pretty good accuracy. They ultimately lost out to silicon, due to the size, maintenance, and training time.

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[–] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago (2 children)

What if I have bird blindness and I try and teach it to a duck?

[–] markstos@lemmy.world 8 points 4 weeks ago

Ducks? That’s quackery.

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