Lakers at 4? Oh so this is a joke ranking. Got it
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I mean you guys were in the conference finals last year, some teams can nit even reach that in a lifetime. And I haven’t even gotten to the bubble which realistically speaking wasn’t really that long ago
what does that have to do with the 2023-2024 NBA season?
Are the Lakers significantly worse this year somehow?
Because that's exactly what they were last year. And young teams with no playoff experience have a zero percent chance of winning the title
Devin Booker is averaging 29.4 points to go along with 8.9 assists and only 3.1 turnovers, looking the part of one of the five best players in the league.
Suns have 2 top 5 players in the league.
Man if that’s true then they have no excuse to not win it all this year right? Much less get embarassed in the second round by Denver ?
Top heavy teams will always be at risk for injuries derailing their season. Which is a big reason I disliked that Bradley Beal trade. Suns should've focused on getting younger complementary players to surround their two stars.
I mean the mavs series was embarrassing the denver series really wasn't.
The sun's best 3rd and 4th best players were injured and they took the eventual chamos to 6 in the closest series they had.
Like if your team has ayton, cp3, and booker injures you will lose a playoff series
Naw. When you lose in the playoffs it embarrassing and your team is full of chokers. If your not gonna win the title it’s better to miss the playoffs /s
Booker was completely fine.ayton got benched for jock landale that wasn’t much of a loss. And they won games with Payne starting instead of Paul. The just disappeared completely after game 4. 4/6 games were blowouts. Wasn’t close at all not as bad as a sweep but they didn’t push anything they were literally down 30 at half at home in game 6. Nothing more embarrassing than that.
They disappeared games 5 and 6 after booker got injured midway through the 5th.
You saying booker was completely fine doesn't make it true
Everyone's seen these new teams look bright early and then fade out over time(It happened to the Wizards and Kings like....multiple times) so they hedge their bets on all new teams that look good.
That’s my thinking too, it’s a long season and usually the veteran teams know how to pace themselves. Wolves and OKC could be peaking so I can see why many ppl are being cautious.
Not really - almost every ranking is off from their preseason predictions.
Putting the Magic that low is crazy
How many playoff games do you think the Magic are winning this year?
This is a power rankings though
It's not. It's a ranking of who is most likely to win the NBA title this year. Of course, the headline and URL say it's a power ranking, which is confusing as hell, but the article itself says it's about title chances.
Very weirdly implemented article. Guess just one of those things where the guy who chooses the headline made a mistake?
Tears of joy
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It seems like he’s pretty firm and confident in his pre-season rankings and is trying not to overreact over a 1 month sample size. He definitely moved teams like the Thunder and Timberwolves up in a more dramatic way compared to others, but the majority of his rankings are directly based on where he had them a month ago, and I think that’s fine.
CLIPPERS 12
I'm not even going to complain about us being so low but above the Clippers at least 😭
The clippers at 12 lmao
You really think the Magic are going farther in the playoffs than the Warriors? I think you'll find yourself in the minority there. I'm wondering how you can put the Mavericks in as a contender. Their eval reads identical to the Pacers but they are 9 spots higher.
The problem with this is that some of the rankings appear to be based on what a team has done thus far, and others on future potential. Even the tier names suggest this.
There's no possible world in which the 10-7 Lakers are the fourth best team of the last month (or the Clippers are 12th) and the 12-5 Magic are in the teens. Now, if you want to say the Clippers and Lakers would beat the Magic in a playoff series: OK, sure. That's more realistic. But that's not what KOC says this is.
It is a power ranking. I do believe that its based on expected performances in the playoffs.
Lakers at 4. LOL trash list.
I am shocked that we are number 1, usually after the trades it was always Boston or Milwaukee
Well we are the defending champs lol. Before this, the Nuggets didnt have the playoff success that the Celtics and Bucks had, but now they are the defending champs and havent lost a game at home and only lost 1 in total before the Jamal injury
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23rd, I'll take it because this feels like the worst team in the league
Hey. The wizards exist
take a guess who 1 of the wizards wins are against
Typical KOC bullshit article
The Ringer is an entertainment website, not an analysis website. Enjoy what they write but take it with a grain of salt.
It feels like every article and podcast topic about the Bucks is negative like this Ringer article yet they’re 12-5…
Yeah, but they are also having some games that feel way closer than they have any right to be and the defense has become questionable.
Still a favorite in my eyes, but i can see why people might not see it like that.
Worst off season move is quite a line for Griffin while he’s shown he can adapt
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It's because you guys haven't had a particularly difficult schedule (ranked 28th here fwiw) and are 12th in net rating and 20th in defense.
Logic dictates that the defense and net rating should improve a bit but the lack of PoA defense, wing defense and Middleton looking slower on that end have really hampered the elite rim protection you have with Brook and Giannis. Idk your money situation but you should be buyers at the deadline if any plus wing defender is available.
Your schedule gets a fair bit harder after this month so I'm interested to see if this team can click. You're 7th in offense now but if your coaching staff can start to utilize your pieces better you should be top 3. Middleton (hopefully) easing into more minutes will also help.
But again a lot of it comes down to just lacking personel which might bite you guys since the two rivals in the east are built around wings.
Personally though i think the Timberwolves should get more respect. At the very least id put them above the 76ers and Lakers.
I prefer them still sleeping, to be honest.
Eh it;s still early, I want to see more. But they do look legit (best Wolves team I've seen in my life tbh), team just needs to stay healthy
I agree with this and think us being behind the 76ers is fair but we absolutely should be ahead of the lakers
Look its both early in the season and the Magic dont have the track record that the Warriors have.
Remeber that the Warriors sucked last year in the regular season and still managed to get to the semis in the playoffs at the end.
I wouldnt count out the Warriors even if they are having a bad start.
Many teams have had a great start to the regular season before falling of or just lossing in the first round to what was a worse team in the regular season.
Lakers at 4 is insane. Also Nuggets have not been the best team this year at all.
Pacers at 19? Nah bruh. Memphis should also be by Washington.
lol I’m surprised the nugs are number one after he essentially doesn’t say a single positive thing about them in the explanation hahahah
If the Warriors and Magic started a series tomorrow, would you honestly believe ORL would beat GS?
I think that's something lost on the FAKE OUTRAGE HOT TAKES about these things.
If the two teams played 100 times, I'd root for ORL 101 times.
But, I'm not stupid. If I had to bet money, I'd place it on GS 102 times out of 100.
I don't care about Orlando's potential. Don't care about GS is washed (as a title contender.) THIS SEASON - 2023-2024 - I would easily pick GS over ORL in a playoff series.
That's what power rankings are for. Anyone can just fucking look at the standings and list the teams in that order.
first power ranking ive seen that ranks us fairly“… Unless Green stomps on Domantas Sabonis again to earn another suspension, his return against the Kings will mark the start of an important stretch for the Warriors that’ll be followed by games against the Clippers and Suns. This period will be telling…”
I am a simple man, I see KOC, I ignore it and move along.
But forreal, lists like this are why I find it hard to even like the Ringer's written content. Grantland had real, thoughtful, writers who actually had solid takes.
I also have gone from really liking the Ringer's NBA pods to skipping almost all of them over the last few years. Can't stand KOC and Verno (I will say, that over time I have gained an appreciation for Verno, while I've grown really tired of KOC), can't stand the fucking hot take hack artists they have on the main Ringer NBA pod (Wos is fine with Bill or in other mediums, but whoever the other guys they bring in just fucking ruin him).
Switch the clippers and the magic and then bump the lakers down a spot or two and this list isn’t that bad
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