Carolina making a HC switch during Bryce Young's already sub par 1at year is definitely going to make watching his development that much interesting.
Also The chargers are cursed to have a above average QB but always find a way to lose games
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Justin Herbert simply isn't good enough smh
He doesn't even have 30 epa on losses. What a scrub
They should do Levis in these kinds of things for the tits. Tannehill isn’t the future for us.
Kill me
This should really be scaled in some way. EPA per play in losses, or average EPA per loss or something. This skews the data heavily against QBs whose teams have lost a lot. Granted, Mac Jones is terrible regardless, but the perspective is screwed up by using total EPA in losses.
Well yes, but also no.
A QB can play good (or at least produce a positive EPA) and their team can still lose.
So while losing more games will make a QBs sample size larger, that doesn’t automatically mean he will be lower on this chart.
Obviously these are extreme examples, but NE only has two more losses than LAC.
Top couple names aren't surprising, but the tier right below them has a few interesting ones
That middle section is the one that’s wild to me. Goff, Russ (less surprising), Mahomes, Tua, Lamar, and Burrow are all downright bad in losses. Goes to show how much impact they have on the roster as a whole.
The ones with only 3 losses don't have much of a sample size for this chart so one bad game will skew it. Mahomes almost certainly all comes from the Broncos game, which was his worst EPA ever in a start.
I wonder if it’s partially because (for example) a guy like Mahomes will frequently find a way to scratch out wins even if he doesn’t play great for part of the game, and so if they lose it is sometimes because he made some huge uncharacteristic mistakes or whatever
Like herbert and Allen are good QBs who just keep losing in all kinds of situations this year, good play or not. It kinda takes and particularly subpar performance for Mahomes or tua to lose the way those teams have been playing
lol imagine having your QB qualify for this graph.
Everyone’s looking for Hurts.
I want to see Danny Jones.
Yay? Idk
Baker doing enough to not be the problem is exactly what I expected when they signed him.
But I thought the losses were on Herbert and not the rest of the team?
Top 2 guys sound on brand, disgrace they haven’t had more team success due to everything else being garbo
Stroud and Love as the best QBs per play when losing is incredibly interesting. And people say Love can’t play, smh.
I already knew who would be on top before I opened this. THANKS SEAN
Yeah Purdy has been pretty good in losses outside of the cleveland game. And even then they had a chance to win.
He's been rock solid basically at all times when he hasn't been actively concussed
Damn Bryce in very bad company lol.
Clearly Justin Herbert and Josh Allen truly suck and need to do more to help their teams win.
Mac is elite goddam. No one does it like him.
MAAAAAC JOOOOOONE
I don't know why you'd just be looking at losses? Seems like QB EPA in wins is also kind of important as far as deciding if the QB is doing well.
Also, someone like Hurts only has one loss so wouldn't that be a pretty small sample size?
Dang, i was thinking “where is Hurts” but I guess 1 game is too small of a sample size.
Just saw this morning SNF and thought Chargers and Bucs are pretty similar teams. Not saying Baker and Herbert are the same but issues with both teams are quite similar, even their records are identical.
Of course it’s Allen and Herbert
Both QB’s let down by just awful coaching
I'm dead inside.