Pythnator

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[–] Pythnator@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago

Cool. Now let's see if he can do it when his average depth of target is over 2.7 yards.

[–] Pythnator@alien.top 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Well no, it was Allen’s fault because he threw it too hard!!!!!

[–] Pythnator@alien.top 1 points 1 year ago

"I apologize for shredding Broncos WR Jerry Jeudy on NFL Network.

I should have done it during halftime of an NBC game."

 

Lots of QBs have had narratives of only having wide open targets to throw to and being turnover machines (no this piece totally has nothing to do with it, no reason to ask) but are they really accurate? To unfortunately steal a line from Buzzfeed, numbers one and two may shock you!

INT% is self-explanatory. It is the percentage of dropbacks in which the QB throws an INT on the box score. TWP stands for Turnover Worthy Play, a stat that measures plays where a QB SHOULD have thrown a pick but a defender dropped it, and discounts passes that are based on a lot of luck such as batted and tipped passes that get picked off as well as passes that go through receiver's hands. Simply put, INTs are box score stats, TWPs are film stats.

Some of the differences are substantial here. Some are expected, and some can completely turn narratives. On the chart, a negative differential means a QB is unlucky and a positive differential means the QB is lucky.

Something to note is that some players might have some variance due to how many fumbles they have due to TWPs counting fumbles as well, but there are significantly more INTs + dropped INTs in general. Ranks would be moved a bit as a result but you'd still be able to figure out the general range of a QB. A player won't go from 5 to 30 just because of fumbles.

QB INT% Rank TWP Rank% Difference
Allen 24 4 -20
Fields 27 7 -20
Garropolo 31 14 -17
Stafford 18 3 -15
Z. Wilson 23 10 -13
Love 28 17 -11
Tagovailoa 20 10 -10
Prescott 13 5 -8
Burrow 8 1 -7
Tannehill 29 23 -6
Mayfield 12 7 -5
Goff 6 2 -4
Cousins 9 5 -4
D. Jones 30 26 -4
Pickett 15 13 -2
Howell 22 20 -2
Hurts 26 24 -2
Young 16 17 1
Mahomes 17 19 2
Carr 7 10 3
R. Wilson 10 15 5
M. Jones 25 30 5
Stroud 1 7 6
Ridder 21 29 8
Herbert 11 21 10
Jackson 4 15 11
Minshew 19 31 12
Smith 14 27 13
Lawrence 2 21 19
Dobbs 3 25 23
Purdy 5 28 23

My general takeaways would be that the turnover machine Josh Allen ain't much of one anymore based on film as opposed to the box score. Fields strikes me as more of a "can't throw a pick if your misses are so bad they're away from everyone" type (I'll admit as a Bills fan I have no real desire to watch a ton of Bears film so I could be wrong here), but better incomplete passes than interceptions. The Jones duo ain't doing so hot with both of them being low on both rankings. Goff and Cousins are very impressive with both categories by high with not much difference. Burrow being as middling as he is this year is more due to him not having as many high end plays as opposed to him messing up that badly. And uh...I promise this wasn't another Purdy is overrated post. Can't say I'm stunned by the result though.