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Republicans and Democrats agree: Charlie's body is fantastic at stopping bullets.
Is this a right wing phenomenon?? More studies are required!
Toilet paper USA confirms that God wanted Charlie Kirk dead so he could use the event to show of his powers a little.
Also confirms that Trump was not miraculous, since his ear didn't catch the bullet that instead went on to nail the guy sitting behind him.
Since that wound healed perfectly in about 4 days, we know it was just strawberry jam and a bandaid. The ear didn't come close.
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It's so fucking weird the way they are idolizing him and his death.
Flags at half-staff, people losing their jobs, AI videos of Kirk with Jesus, bills proposing bronze statues of him, and now "his neck miraculously stopped the bullet and saved innocent bystanders"?
Like I know they don't really believe any of it, but it's still so weird. It's getting to be like North Korea levels of kooky.
This is their Blutfahne, their Blood Flag. It's mythmaking - you just have to get people outraged enough and they'll believe pretty much anything they're presented with. I truly believe they had all this in the tank for when Trump keeled over (actually I think they were drawing this up before he nearly bought it in Butler PA), but martyrdom is a POWERFUL force, especially in a critical mass of people who are primed for martyr culture in the way the largely-white-supremacist-flavored American Evangelical communities are. The GOP is pissed that nobody successfully took a shot at Reagan, either Bush, or Trump I, so now they're latching on in an attempt to get SOME gas on the fire before it burns out.
To be fair, killing Kirk probably did save some lives
Thats some grade A BS
I'll admit it's pretty tenuous, but if it at all helps prevent the US's descent into fascism then I'll have been right.
No way to be totally sure without a crystal ball that sees alternate timelines, though.
You're only digging deeper.... it's not likely that killing one man is "but if it at all helps prevent the US's descent into fascism" noooo... dont even go there. Soon we'll be rounding political decenters. If he were fascist, His death wouldn't prevent the US from descending into fascism, especially now that he would be a martyr for fascism. You cant justify murdering someone because they might be indirectly involved in future deaths. He has never promoted violence. No, no excuses why his murder was ok. It was not ok. For anyone.
I said it was tenuous.
When someone that promotes gun violence and decries justice to its victims dies by gun violence, it's not a tragedy; it's poetic justice. Unless you mean it's alright to live by the sword, but wrong to die by the sword.
You're one who's been poisoned. He didn't do anything close to "promote gun violence", especially to the point of justifying assassinations.
"It's not a tragedy; it's poetic justice." Such a disgusting take... have you no humanity?
He certainly didn't "live by the sword", he was a debater. Usually a mass-debater. (I had to). If you do anything other than abhor and disapprove of CK's brutal public assassination, you need to inspect your heart and mind, because something isn't lining up.
Let me ask you, out of curiosity, when people said intolerance must be met with intolerance; what did you think that looked like? Peace? Tears? Or do you even understand the Paradox of Tolerance? All my sympathy goes to the victims and families of the victims of the actual tragedy that happened that day. The school shooting in Colorado. I guess I just have nothing left to spare for a fascist mouth piece.
Oh yuck... oh you ran out of sympathy, or you're a sociopath. Fair argument is guess.
when people said intolerance must be met with intolerance
Lol. And who said that? No one, you just made it up, and its not true. Intolerance doesn't have to be met with Intolerance. The is objectively weak and pathetic. To be clear, exactly what "Intolerance" are we talking about right now?
Your ignorance is on full display. Karl Popper said that. I'm guessing you're also one of those who, when backed into a corner, can't answer a simple yes or no to this question: "Do you support violence against violent fascists?" Can you, without attempting to twist the words or make it about me, answer that question in simple yes or no terms? Just to be absolutely clear; I'm not implying anyone is the violent fascist in this question. Just a simple yes or no will do. Answer that and I'd be happy to entertain the rest of your questions.
Sigh... let's break it down...
Your ignorance is on full display. Karl Popper said that.
Who? Why should I care? Its on display? Yo what audiences?
"Do you support violence against violent fascists?
Is violence justified against violence? On occasion yes. I have no more energy tonight. Be blessed and love
This is literally physically impossible, by the way, to make comport with the current official story.
There is 0 chance a 30.06 round fired from 150 yards would stop 'just under the skin'.
A 30.06 at 500 yards can blow apart the bones of an elk or moose.
Literally 0 chance that what is being described is physically possible.
Have you seen the ballistics gel videos on YouTube? The entire human head explodes
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With that logic, God could have stopped it a few inches sooner, but chose not to.
Could have deflected it by few inches and saved him but apparently the guy behind was more worthy of a miracle.
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Uh. No one was standing behind him.
And where was this miracle when all those people were killed around Trump? Did they get medals and statues?
Since these kinds of people love to shoehorn divine intention into everything, what does that specific case mean?
That Kirk was the only person there that God thought needed to die?
Because he was so pro gun violence, it's great this bullet is designed to mushroom, carom off the skeleton, and do a little Fantastic Voyage through his interior systems, eviscerating everything in its wake.
A .30-06 round at 150 yards didn't exit his body. Right.
Haven't watched this frame-by-frame take on the ballistics, but I would think a 30.06 would blow half his neck off. There is a frame I looked for while skimming, and oh yeah, his neck expands.
First time I shot a 30.06 my buddy and I were drilling holes in 3/8", high quality steel. Looked like we used a drill press, wasn't even jagged on the exit side.
Correct, the scenario we are being presented with, with this latest detail, is laughably impossible, if one has any experience with shooting this caliber.
Not implausible.
Impossible.
A straight on shot from a 30.06 at 150 yards, yes, would have blown off a chunk of his neck at least the size of orange, a soft ball.
It is completely impossible that a 30.06 would have just stopped barely under the skin, stopped by a collar bone or vertebrae.
A 30.06 at 150 yards makes entire cinder blocks explode.
No human bone can withstand this intact, none, full stop, this is not a question, a 30.06 at 150 yards has approximately 2200 FT/LBs of kinetic energy, more than double that of 5.56 at the same range, any human bone a 30.06 hits from 150 yards away would shatter and explode within the body, the bone fragments tearing through the body, probably also erupting out of the skin.
And before anyone comments this: No, Kirk was not wearing body armor, you would have been able to see plate armor on his chest leaving tell tale imprinting signs with that light shirt he was wearing, and you can just literally see his man nipples through the shirt.
Anything less than level 4 plate would have been blown directly through by a 30.06, it would not result in a ricochet into his neck as I keep seeing people say.
(And realistically, level 4 plate might not even hold up to a 30.06 at that range.)
Most of right wing gun tube is currently extremely pissed off over this 'news', as ... they tend to shoot targets on video for a living.
And anyone can go right now and watch them show you how impossible this described scenario is.
This is absolute horseshit, it is an obvious lie.
My immediate assumption was that it was 5.56 or 2.23. No analyzing it in the moment I saw the video, just seemed reasonable at the time. Didn't notice there was no obvious exit wound.
If you showed me that video for the first time and said, "The round was a 30.06.", I'd laugh in your face.
The facts the FBI has presented are laughable on many points. If this guy has a solid lawyer, I can see him sowing a shitload of doubt in the minds of the jurors. As it stands, with what I know in this moment, I'd let him walk. This evidence is far too smelly to be beyond reasonable doubt.
Anyway, I'm off to finally watch that video.
My initial guess was .270 or .243, out of a common bolt action hunting rifle.
Now, I have no fucking clue what has actually happened, all I know is the narrative the government and admin connected right wingers are going with is impossible.
Steve Bannon, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones are all calling bullshit on this as well.
Not that I trust them as reliable sources, but large parts of the right are not buying this either.
If you are going to watch the video, up close, and you have PTSD or cannot handle gore well... fucking be ready.
I had a legit PTSD panic attack watching the fucking geyser of blood leave from his neck.
Its fucking bad, if you've ever seen anything like that in real life.
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Also, another whole fucking weird oddity is that Robinson's family has not actually gotten him a lawyer.
Robinson is still, right now, trying to get a public attorney assigned to him.
Yeah, thats right, he does not even have any legal counsel at the moment.
I mean if it deformed enough to curve into bone I'm pretty sure we don't call it a miracle we call it fluid dynamics.
Either it didn't, and this is a lie, or the bullet that hit Kirk was not a 30.06 from ~150 yards.
Somebody is lying here.
Yes, lower caliber rounds can and do actually do what is being described.
Not a 30.06. A 30.06 will blow apart a cinder block at that range, easily.
A 30.06 at 150 yards has about 2200 FT/LBs of kinetic energy.
A .22lr pistol round is much more likely to do what is being described here... even from less than 50 yards, you're talking more like 100 FT/LBs of KE.
A 9mm at less than 50 yards? Around 250 FT/LBs.
5.56mm? At 150 yards? ~950 FT/LBs.
Again, a 30.06 at 150 yards is ~2200 FT/LBs.
The actual physics of fluid dynamics and composite materials do not work with the scenario we are being told happened.
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I knew it. I knew Charlie's Mom was special.
They 100% are going to use this to try and make him a Saint.
He was 🤏 this close to becoming a Catholic.
But he wasn't. So he's unlikely to be granted sainthood.
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I suppose it's because you need to have a confirmed miracle in order to have him made a saint.
What surgeon? He was declared at the scene. Are they talking about the coroner?
He was not declared dead at the scene, Trump was actually the person who broke the news that Kirk was dead, about an hour after the shooting, maybe 45 to 30 minutes after Kirk arrived at the hospital... he was reported as in critical condition, but likely already dead...
...but uh yeah, yeah it would be nice to know who this surgeon was, or, you know, maybe get us a fucking autopsy report?
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this has literally never happened in the history of sniper shootings so.. add Kirk to the long list of all of them, i guess. what a miracle.
These "journalists" played too much Sniper Elite where you can curve a single bullet to kill 15 nazis standing in a circle.
The invisible man standing behind him was saved.
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