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What about similar oddities in English?
(This question is inspired by this comic by https://www.exocomics.com/193/ (link found by BunScientist@lemmy.zip)) Edit: it's to its in the title. Damn autocorrect.

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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago

English has way more vowel sounds than it has vowels.

  • jack
  • barn
  • arena
  • ball
  • able
  • rare

Those are just words where the primary vowel letter is "a".

The terrible attempt to solve this is by using double letters, but then consistency goes out the window. There's times when "ea" is a single vowel sound like /rid/ (reed) or /rɛd/ (red). But it can also be /ɛrn/ as in earn, which rhymes with urn and burn. It can be /ˈɡɹeɪt/ as in great, where the "ea" is a diphthong and pronounced like the "a" in grate or vague. Or, for more fun, the two letters can each fully get their own pronunciation like "react" or "theatre".

We're really at the "bearn it all down and start over" stage with English. Let's just all agree to switch to español.

[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Read" is spelled s-a-m-e? English is a weird language.

[–] WhyIHateTheInternet@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Wait until you hear about how we pronounce colonel!

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 6 points 1 week ago

We pronounce it the same as the linux colonel.

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[–] _edge@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Present: read

Past: red (in the fediverse), redd (on the old site)

Obvious.

[–] hddsx@lemmy.ca 6 points 1 week ago (2 children)

“It has been red”.

So was the text red or has the text been read?

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[–] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Lead and lead as well. I got a lead on those lead undergarments you wanted. I'll lead you there later.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

How did I get to the lead merchant? I was led here. But in the price negotiation, I took the lead.

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[–] leftzero@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 week ago (3 children)

The digraph oo is pronounced at least six different ways:

  • boot, proof, boost, scoop, moon
  • book, foot, look, cookie, good
  • floor, poor, door, moor
  • flood, blood
  • zoology, cooperative
  • brooch (just brooch; there doesn't seem to be any other word in the whole language using this sound for oo).
[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Are the first 2 lines really different?

Genuine question from a non native speaker.

[–] Randelung@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

first line is a long oo, second line is a short oo.

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[–] crystalmerchant@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Brooch and mooch.

But, aren't these the same sounds as boot / proof / boost etc.?

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[–] 2piradians@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (2 children)

On a different note there is Reading, a football club in UK, which is pronounced "Redding". This pronunciation is akin to the Reading Railroad from Monopoly (which I mispronounced all my life until today).

Little details, picked up along the way.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Reading is a place itself, the football club is the club for that place

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[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 week ago

It's pronounced "Redding" Railroad?? All those times I sang "Take a look, it's in a book, Reading Railroad!" were a lie!

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Reed, red. Homophones should be homographs too.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago

Reed and Red

[–] xia@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 1 week ago

How about we go with reed and red... see, you already know how to pronounce them!

[–] slazer2au@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

Wind as in air moving and wind as in a pathway with twists and turns.

[–] Zamboni_Driver@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago

Read and readed

[–] Jeffool@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

You should wrede a book they wrote, and after you've wred the book, write your own.

[–] Tattorack@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

The comedic timing of this strip is actually really good.

[–] stinky@redlemmy.com 3 points 1 week ago

Looking up the etymology is often helpful in theoretical discussions about pronunciation and spelling :)

[–] radix@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Are reed and red taken?

[–] SonicBlue03@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Read should be said "read" and read read. Read, on the other hand, I would leave as is.

[–] Rudgrcom@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Read and Reddit

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