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Sneaking more Babylon 5 references into risa, please ignore (programming.dev)

submitted 11 months ago by Zink@programming.dev to c/risa@startrek.website

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Making my first Lemmy post because this moment in my DS9 rewatch made me think of you all.

I think I’ll call her Captain Gilora Lochley.

Also, DS9 is even better than I remember. It’s been a while!

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[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

No poweruser, no moderator, can hold an imprisoned meme source by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for memes. Against that power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The online polls learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

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[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

DS9 is much tonally darker. It still feels fairly modern in presentation. The show pushes and prods at the utopian Star Trek ideals. There is character growth among the main characters, and overarching stories especially in the last few seasons.

It’s not fully grimdark, and has some of the best interactions and humor in Trek, but the setting is a post-military occupation planet. It doesn’t handwave away the lingering issues.

The cast and characters are great. Easily the best reoccurring show villains in DS9.

[–] BertramDitore@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This is such a great description, and captures why I love DS9 so much. I think the fact that it doesn’t really take place in the Federation, and that the overarching plot is moved along by external forces from an entirely different quadrant, gives it the space to thoughtfully explore the depths of a well-intentioned yet exclusionary post-scarcity utopia from a darker perspective. Especially how the Federation’s ideals interact with the aftermath of a very familiar military occupation on Bajor at the same time as it stokes an external threat from an unfamiliar ‘other’ through the Dominion/Founders. And all of that is accomplished through some of the best character development of any show I’ve seen.

[–] KnightontheSun@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Thank you for the reply! I will put it on my list and cue it up.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Easily the best reoccurring show villains in DS9.

Better than Neelix's cooking?

[–] setsneedtofeed@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

The cheese had very little character development compared to Jake.

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I see no reason not to give it a try. I'm in the middle of rewatch #4 I think. Just got into season 3. It's better than I remember.

[–] Zink@programming.dev 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

My guess is yes. Many consider it the best Star Trek. I think I agree and I’m not even to the best parts yet.

The general look & feel of it is closest to TNG, if you’ve seen much of that. It’s not as campy as the original, but you get a few moments of “look at that actor on that obvious sound stage set pretending to be an alien, lol” moments. But DS9 has more long plot arcs. I am loving the cast of characters more than I remember too.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 2 points 11 months ago

So glad people here like ds9. I told people it was my favorite like 10 years ago and got so much crazy on how it was bad.

[–] gregorum@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Yes.

[–] neuracnu@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago

The Babylon 5 shitposting lemmy community on the Star Trek instance should be called !spoo.

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 4 points 11 months ago

What is this, some deep space franchise??