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15 inches?! That's a BRANCH insect
Dude types like chatgpt
Or ChatGPT is modeled after this kind of excited teacher behavior as a base for the way it interacts with users
The math checks out.
He long
He not that thicc
And most importantly
He look like sticc
With your permission I'm going to cook up some beats and use this verse as a hook.
Go for it.
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Bug if true
The answer is that we don't fund science at the rate that we should, especially not bug science. Want discoveries? Gotta pay someone to actually do the work.
Sorry, the best we can do is fascism, open corruption, and rampant anti-intellectualism.
You mean that scientists don't just hang out outside during their free time and go looking for new species? That's not how it works?
Thatβs definitely how the government would like us to work. But we would like piles on cash in the form of a living wage, thanks
Looking for weird sticks doesn't make anyone rich though. Think of the economy for once.
Won't anyone think of the shareholder value
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Think of the stockholders!
And what's with the stickholders?
They're entomologists!
Why do they wiggle tho
because sticks wiggle in the wind. it's all part of their masterful ploy
It's like he's trying to juke me out. I bet he breaks ankles
maybe its windy?
How could an animal that has perfected evade our detection?
Truly the noodlest of noodle scratchers.
"what is collective knowledge"
But humans love to pick up sticks. How has nobody picked this guy up by accident?
I wish there was some kind of "Unitendified species discovered! +5 achievement points" thing in real life. As it is, unless the correct people pick it up, odds are nobody would know or care if it's a known species.
Do you take the time to carefully identify and classify every bug you come across? I don't have the skills for it, nor frankly the enthusiasm to spend time acquiring and applying them, and I'm confident that applies to most people.
: gathering kindling:
: grab a good looking stick:
: it suddenly thrashes about and bites you:
: drop it whilst shitting pants:
: tell no one:
They probably have.
But if you came across a random bug, especially a big one like that, wouldnβt you assume other people already knew about it? I would.
I mean sure you might take a pic and send it to a few people, but they would probably also assume itβs known.
They live high up in the tree canopy. Not like people missed a monster bug walking down the trail.
Wasn't there a story where scientists sprayed a whole tree with insecticide in the rainforest and they discovered tenths of new bug species?
Yes. Also, tenths of newly extinct bug species.
how does something like this go undiscovered until now
I don't know the specifics of this particular insect's origin story, but for a surprising number of insects & arthropods, the answer can be summarized as "nobody bothered to look closely enough".
Sometimes that's a literal fact -- the critter is so well disguised, lives in a remote or hard to reach location, or is so uncommon that nobody's ever noticed it before. But with surprising frequency, it's a case where previously undiscovered species have been right under our noses (or feet or rocks in our suburban yards) this whole time and we simply did not realize it. It's not that we don't notice them, just that nobody's ever taken the time to really study them enough to spot the differences from one closely related species to the next so we simply assumed they're all the same.
For example, there are species of beetles that about the only reliable way to tell them apart is to count the hairs on their butt when they are larvae. As adults, they are nearly indistinguishable. Now imagine that nobody ever took the time to study larval butt hair.I guess what I'm saying is, we need more funding for bug butt hair and general bug butt hair awareness, because it's a thing.
Without going into what βspeciesβ means exactly - because I know thatβs complicated - can you explain why those beetles are different species despite being nearly identical as adults? Is it just that they cannot interbreed?
People put far too much faith the idea that we as a society know most, or even all there is to know. Humanity has advanced far and increasingly faster in recent years, but we still know basically nothing in terms of the grand scale of things to discover and know.
Even now, our methods of discovering things like new species are far less advanced than people like this probably imagine - it basically boils down to time, persistence, and luck.
We don't even know how much there is to know or if such a limit can exist at all
That, and every grad student and upwards worst nightmare: funding
Last time this meme came up I had the perfectly worded Disco Elysium quote ready, but I've forgotten it. So just pretend I said it right now.
Wow. That was perfect. I'm a better man for the timing of that quote
I almost became a better man for it but then I found drugs
I keep hearing about the game but your quote finally convinced me to find the time and play through it myself.
I am a relatively median lifeform, while you are extreme, all-engulfing madness. A volatile simian nervous system, ominously new to the planet.
We pay millions out to researchers just to look at sticks, leaves, and rocks to determine if they are bugs or not. Wait, that's wrong ...
I miss that guy, must be on threads
If that was found in Australia, it's -Poisonous -Venomous
- Chlamydic
- aggressive and bitey
- invasive
One or more of the above. No exceptions.
That's no excuse, if we all grab a random stick to check if it's an undiscovered species of stick insects...
How's that concealment trick of yours working now Mr. Dickinsect? On the random luck scale we are equals!
Iβd be terrible at discovering new species because I would assume anything I found was already discovered and exhaust myself looking for it in databases.
That's probably a big part of why this took so long to be described by science.
Is that... the Insulindian Phasmid?