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    [–] arandomthought@sh.itjust.works 49 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    If they don't understand this, can we even call it intelligent life?

    [–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 61 points 2 years ago (10 children)

    Maybe they use Emacs.

    Bonus: I googled "emacs" to make sure I got the capitalization right for the post and Google is throwing shade:

    [–] TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)
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    [–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)
    [–] dukk@programming.dev 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    It’s the other way around, too.

    Not as true though.

    [–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago

    This gotta be some inside joke leaking from google

    [–] dubyakay@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

    Maybe it's time to stop using GOOG

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    [–] vsis@feddit.cl 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    wrong: you press esc multiple times to make sure you are in normal mode.

    [–] treadful@lemmy.zip 14 points 2 years ago

    At least 3 times. 5 to make sure.

    [–] doctorn@r.nf 25 points 2 years ago (1 children)
    [–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    You shouldn't really use editor with sudo, but instead use sudoedit to edit files restricted to root user

    SUDO_EDITOR=nano sudoedit /etc/fstab

    This accomplishes the same function while running the text editor as unprivileged user

    [–] doctorn@r.nf 10 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    Why?

    Files from user: nano

    Files from root: sudo nano

    Files from another user: sudo nano (and if new sudo chown after)... πŸ˜‚

    Never had any problems with this in over 10 years... πŸ˜…πŸ˜‚

    [–] Hawk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    Doing sudo nano will not load your user configuration, sudoedit will. I had plenty of problems with this, but I assume you don't have any custom configuration.

    [–] samuelc@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    One reason why sometime I don't do sudoedit is that I make a lot of changes to the config/restart service/see it works/edit etc.. sudoedit only write to the file when exiting, so that flow won't work...

    for example when having adding a new host on nginx and some configuration and see if everything work (sudo vim/systemc nginx restart/curl https:// domain loop)

    but yeah in general i'll just use sudoedit (which alias to se for me) for my root editing

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    [–] hemko@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    As mentioned, to prevent running your text editor with root permissions. It's just security optimization

    [–] doctorn@r.nf 4 points 2 years ago (12 children)

    Let me rephrase my question:

    Why would I not want to open nano as root?

    No offense, but that sounds like more OCD behavior. πŸ˜… I don't need or want protection against myself, and I even loath the whole "that's not how you're supposed to do it"-mentality of linux (where when commands know very well what you want, instead of doing it, just tell you you forgot something). πŸ˜…

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    [–] Huschke@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago (6 children)

    Alternatively you could use my favorite approach, Visual Studio Code. Just open the file with it, edit it and upon saving you will be promoted if the file needs admin rights to save.

    [–] LaSaucisseMasquee@jlai.lu 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

    Okay but how can I show how good I am with shortcuts to edit legacy software ?

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    [–] MalReynolds@slrpnk.net 3 points 2 years ago

    Yup, s/vsc/kwrite/ personally, it's lighter, but why shouldn't I have a pretty for my config editing needs...

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    [–] SigHunter@feddit.de 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

    until the moment you realize that somehow you are not on your native keyboard layout and where the hell is : and ! in this weird language??!

    [–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 8 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)
    [–] JetpackJackson@feddit.de 3 points 2 years ago

    I have done this too many times now lol, you'd think I would have learned

    [–] MacNCheezus@lemmy.today 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    "I use Arch Linux btw"

    *doesn't know how to use vim

    Pottery

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    [–] marietta_man@yall.theatl.social 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

    ESC Z Z

    Although I usually bang ESC a few times to
    make sure i’m back to command mode

    [–] lseif@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)
    [–] digger@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Double Z's will save and then exit. The command on until board will exit without saving changes.

    [–] Astaroth@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

    yeah to exit without saving you do ZQ instead of ZZ

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    [–] TimeSquirrel@kbin.social 17 points 2 years ago (1 children)
    [–] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    Great, now all my changes are lost. Thank you very much!

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 years ago

    Your welcome!

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    [–] key@lemmy.keychat.org 11 points 2 years ago (2 children)
    [–] WaterWaiver@aussie.zone 7 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Alternative:

    Ctrl-z  
    kill -9 %1   # Shell keeps track of job pids for you, job 1 is %1, job 2 is %2, etc
    fg  # Not technically necessary, but it's fun to see the corpse
    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)
    [–] SpaceCadet@feddit.nl 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

    Reminds me of the time I brought down a whole AIX server with the killall command back in the 1990s.

    On AIX killall really means kill every single process.

    [–] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    i think you mean ctrl s and ctrl x

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    [–] glowie@h4x0r.host 7 points 2 years ago

    What is this sorcery?! I thought you had to reboot each time to exit.

    [–] kbotc@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

    META-C :wq!

    ESC is all the way over there and my hand is already on the space bar.

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    [–] Tenthrow@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

    That's only if you don't want to save first (ahem write the buffer).

    [–] Jorgelino@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

    Odds are if you don't know how to exit vim you probably don't want to save whatever you wrote in there.

    [–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

    Who in there right mind would want to save a bunch of gibberish

    [–] QuazarOmega@lemy.lol 4 points 2 years ago

    ihh splqqiq:wq

    Wear your mistakes proudlyq!

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