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[–] RougeEric@lemmy.zip 87 points 2 months ago (9 children)

Arguably, it's at least in large part the efforts of socialists, communists, and radical feminists that made some of these possible. But decades of vilification in the USA have made them virtually invisible to the general population.

[–] orbitz@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 months ago

Nothing like propaganda to make people to go against their best interests. I keep having to remember even decades is well after I was born, I can't imagine having the ideals of conservatives. As long as it's functional but there's no cost to not suppressing others, well there may be at some point when we're all on a scorching planet and have to make real sacrifices. Of course the old billionaires will be dead for the rest to deal with the fallout.... hopefully figuratively and not actually like the game.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 42 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

MAGA women do not want all women to express to those rights.

MAGA women want to control who represses those rights.

[–] theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com 35 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Liberalism is not the reason for almost any of these but radicals working against not within the system.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 14 points 2 months ago

Liberals taking credit for others’ praxis is their praxis.

[–] plyth@feddit.org 4 points 2 months ago

Or for the system. If the end result is that an election can be won by buying ads then all the work was for the benefit of the rich.

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[–] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (5 children)

... You don't buy a credit card.

[–] ininewcrow@lemmy.ca 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

A better historical note would be to say .... to have a bank account

I think up until the 50s women couldn't have a bank account in their name, without their husband signing for them or something. Up until then, women couldn't have any money in their name in a recognized bank.

For common women that is ... if you were the ultra wealthy, you could afford to skirt around banking rules ... but as a common woman with a bit of money, you couldn't have a regular bank account of your own.

[–] Thunderbird4@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You’re right except for the year. That wasn’t until 1974 that women could open back accounts in their own name.

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[–] FunctionallyLiterate@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 months ago

Some do have an annual fee...

[–] blitzen@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Between annual fees or interest, most people do directly pay for using a credit cards.

And even if there’s no AF, and you don’t carry a balance so there’s no interest, we all indirectly pay by way of processing fees.

[–] Steve 4 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Paying isn't buying though.
Buying is paying for ownership of a thing.

You don't "own" a credit card. Credit cards own you. (Unless you're careful)

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[–] ElectricAirship@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 months ago

Hey great idea! /s

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[–] SkunkWorkz@lemmy.world 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (18 children)

Isn’t that because of progressivism? Liberalism is free markets and small government and all that shit. Stop letting the lib shits claim these wins.

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[–] DarkFuture@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Yeah but their pastor said liberals eat babies. So deal's off.

[–] Houseman@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago

They are trained from a very young age to obey and never question authority. It's pretty much part of the religion.

[–] Packet@lemmy.ml 20 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Vote

New Zealand, Finland and the USSR were the first to make that a reality. Spearheaded by trade union movements and communists.

Work

The Soviet Union was the first country to establish legal equality in pay and employment for women, and then followed by the PRC and the wide amount of time of socdem movement in the nordic countries.

File for divorce

France was the first, with the french revolution. Then came the Soviet Union and after it the PRC.

Buy a credit card

To be honest this is absurd, but indeed the US was the first as far as I can remember. Having the right to drown in debt is good i guess.

Buy a home or a car

US and UK did indeed pioneer that, but it was with more focus on married women. Actual acts focused just on women were implemented by the Soviet Union with collective property and gender equality laws.

Driver's license

There were little to no formal bans for that, social stigma was and is real though. Still an issue.

Pregnant and not get fired

USSR pioneered that in 1918, with labor codes protecting working mothers. Followed by the nordic socdem movement and the US only in the 1978

Husband can go to jail for beating you

USSR again, was the first to criminalize domestic battery in 1918. Although enforced unevenly it was legally punishable. Western Europe and the Northern America started it in 1970s with implementation continued to 1990s.

Many of the achievements listed are not of liberalism or neoliberalism, they were achievements of activists and unions working in a group to protect their collective interests. In many of the cases it was the Soviet Union with the revolution spearheading these rights, because the revolution itself was started by working class women. The nordics followed with their own social democrat feminist movement. In many things the PRC came before the neoliberal states in achievements of women's rights, and that is a state that was ravaged by war and imperialism for years. Liberalism gave little to nothing, it maintained the hierarchies, and silenced the movement. Both democrats and republicans both do not care about women's rights. They are both parties of the same right wing on the fascist eagle.

[–] boonhet@sopuli.xyz 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

So this is almost definitely referring to social liberalism, not economic/classical liberalism which is an entirely different thing. Some ideas of social liberalism overlap with progressivism and even socialism.

The US happens to have two parties that are liberals - but it's two different varieties of liberalism. Republicans are classical liberals whereas democrats for the most part are social liberals

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[–] altphoto@lemmy.today 14 points 2 months ago

...you can have an abortion if you want to not have a baby yet....oh actually you don't have this one anymore.

[–] AntiBullyRanger@ani.social 12 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Optional@fash.world misspelling “radicalism” for “liberalism” is peak liberal Illusory Truth Effect.

Get more radical, law-boot licker.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that a significant portion of MAGA don't actually want most of those things.

They feel that freedoms are responsibilities. They don't want to think about who they should vote for, or have to have a job or think about credit cards and budgets and bank accounts. And they're not worried about needing a divorce or their husband beating them because they figure "Well I married a good Christian man, that will never be a problem for me."

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[–] Bloomcole@lemmy.world 8 points 2 months ago

LOL liberalism.
American dumb

[–] Noise7@lemmy.world 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Okay, but can I renounce them all to own the libs?

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 2 months ago

Hell yeah! Heck, in Texas this doubles as a yard sign for your candidacy!

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[–] LittleBorat3@lemmy.world 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

They don't care and take everything for granted, that's what stupid people do. Also they think 5 min in advance.

See the people who voted for Trump and then were shocked that they or their relatives get deported. Likewise here: "the bad stuff is for other people and not me“ or some version of that.

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