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The disapproval of Elon Musk is the top reason Tesla Model 3 owners are selling their electric vehicles and going for another brand, according to a new survey of 5,000 Model 3 owners.

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[–] xenomor@lemmy.world 402 points 1 year ago (28 children)

Tesla spent years building a brand identity that is intimately woven together with Musk. It’s damaged goods now as far as I’m concerned. Every time I encounter one of its products I think about it. It wasn’t too long ago when I was eagerly following product updates in the hopes of eventually buying a car power wall or that solar roof system. I was enthusiastic about rationalizing away the poor build quality and terrible customer support. Now, I would never buy a thing from them and I’m happy to pass judgement on anyone who does. $tslaq

[–] almar_quigley@lemmy.world 160 points 1 year ago (28 children)

Even beyond Musk the quality of Tesla’s for the price is absolute shit. His presence just makes it even worse. The main selling point for them was the higher range but seems like that may have been a lie the whole time.

[–] Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world 94 points 1 year ago (18 children)

That's the reality

Musk is a dipshit. But the brand was always doomed once other car manufacturers finally started pushing mainline EVs. Because why would you want an overpriced car with no steering wheel that leaks in the rain when you could just drive an electric Ford Focus?

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[–] whofearsthenight@lemmy.world 24 points 1 year ago

that may have been a lie the whole time.

Musk's taint on the brand is I think majorly based on this type of thing. His twitter purchase has revealed that he's a serial liar, and now people are seeing all of the ways that it is happening with Tesla. People tolerate assholes all of the time. What they don't want to tolerate is snake oil salesmen, and I'm not sure there has ever been a bigger one than Musk.

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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 57 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

In addition, almost all big car manufacturers now have far better EVs in terms of quality, features, and looks. Tesla no longer has the monopoly they enjoyed for almost a decade. If you’re selling me an EV with this shit stain on it, I’d just go the shop next door.

Let his fascist followers buy his EVs….oh wait, they hate them. Remember all the rage against EVs in Texas that led to “rolling coal” in Teslas, purposely parking F250s to take up all the Tesla charging stations, vandalism at charging stations, keying Teslas parked at malls? Yeah, those are the people he is fighting for.

[–] Naia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I wanted a Tesla for years. I even had stock which helped me buy my house.

I no longer want a Tesla and it 100% has to do with musk. And I decided that before I realized I'm trans.

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[–] CodingSquirrel@kbin.social 153 points 1 year ago (4 children)

If I already had a Tesla I don't know that I'd sell it because of him, but he was one of the major factors in me not even considering them when I was shopping for my EV. The other reasons being shoddy quality control, shitty practices, and dumb design decisions. All of which probably stem from him anyway.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I'd be looking to sell it, specifically because of him.

The willingness for him to make executive decisions to fuck people using his platforms is what frightens me. He'll cut starlink for people he doesn't like. He'll snipe twitter accounts of people he doesn't like.

Since Teslas can be remotely force fed new updates, I genuinely believe it's just a matter of time before he starts fucking with peoples cars. I expect as a way to use Tesla owners as pawns to apply political pressure in areas w/ high ownership that enact tax policy he doesn't like.

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[–] CharlestonChewbacca@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (11 children)

Yeah, if my car was beyond repair tomorrow and I needed a new one, I'd be getting either a Hyundai Ioniq 6 or a Silverado EV. A few years ago, I would've been leaning toward the Model 3.

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[–] BlackNo1@lemmy.world 121 points 1 year ago (2 children)

its funny how selling a car brand as “eco” friendly backfires when you’re a fascist cunt

[–] Clown_Tempura@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It blows my mind that Elon would still be well-regarded as a visionary entrepreneur, accurately or not, if he had just kept his stupid fucking mouth shut.

[–] joel_feila@lemmy.world 44 points 1 year ago

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt

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[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 113 points 1 year ago (5 children)

I will probably buy an EV in the next year but I have zero interest in a Tesla. Musk is the reason.

[–] theragu40@lemmy.world 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Yeah I think this is a bigger risk for Tesla than current owners selling.

I'm not in the market for a car right now but there's a decent chance that the next one I buy will be an EV. Up until maybe 2 years ago I'd have said a Tesla would have been top of the list for options. I don't really feel that way anymore, and Musks instability is the primary reason.

I think his antics will have a snowball effect on future sales.

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[–] AzPsycho@lemmy.world 99 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I think it's more about how those types of buyers view the manufacturers reliability long term. The man is unhinged and has proven with Twitter that if given the chance he will willingly fuck over users. Imagine giving a bully the ability to limit your driving range or disabling your vehicle on a whim because he decides he doesn't like you or what your local govt says.

Not saying he would do it but he has proven repeatedly to be unstable enough to believe he could escape punishment for doing it.

[–] stabby_cicada@slrpnk.net 36 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Really emphasizes how vital "right to repair" is. If a Tesla didn't have proprietary software and centralized control over its cars it wouldn't matter how irrational Musk was. But Tesla owners have to trust Tesla to maintain both the hardware and software in their cars, which means buying a Tesla is a long-term commited relationship with that company. And same with Ford, GMC, every car company whose software is a black box - if you can't repair your own vehicle, you have to trust the management of the car company won't screw you over for fun and profit.

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[–] Oderus@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I read that someone had upgraded their P60 to a P90 by getting a new battery, all official and from Tesla and months later they updated his firmware and locked out the extra 30Kwh because it wasn't the stock battery.

It's shit like that that keeps me from owning anything Elon related.

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[–] reverendsteveii@lemm.ee 99 points 1 year ago (3 children)
  1. make the whole brand about me as a person

  2. act like an insufferable prick

  3. ?????

  4. profit!

[–] infotainment@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

All Elon had to do was stick to the rockets and cars!

But no, he has to go pick fights with random people online and espouse stupid talking points. It’s like a masterclass in killing your personal brand.

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[–] Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works 92 points 1 year ago (9 children)

I used to want a Tesla... Now I don't. That's 60% Elon and 40% their poor build quality.

The second percentage should be higher. It's not, though. Elon is a very hateable person due to his low IQ, and astronomically high level of arrogance.

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[–] dlok@lemmy.world 91 points 1 year ago (2 children)

I aspired to own a Tesla before musk started showing his colours now I would find it embarrassing

[–] USSEthernet@startrek.website 29 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Same, but after seeing the quality of everything else besides the software, no thanks. The electronics and infotainment seem to be the only thing they made well. Put that in a Honda or Toyota and I'd be happy.

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[–] donescobar@lemmy.world 89 points 1 year ago (4 children)

I’m sure the anti-woke crowd he is pandering to is going to jump in and buy up all the teslas

[–] eestileib@sh.itjust.works 38 points 1 year ago (12 children)

I think the Ford electric truck is selling like crazy to that demographic; if you really need low end torque suddenly an electric motor is tolerable.

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[–] Stupidmanager@lemmy.world 59 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Leased a tesla MS in 2017 because I knew 250mile battery was not going to be the max in 2020 and guessed 350mile was possible (i was right). Right around then Elon came out as a conspiracy twat, so I was more than happy to turn my car in when he went full right wing twat.

3 years on, I’m the proud owner of an ebike with a few thousand miles on it, created by a company not owned by a twat. My insurance is $50 a month and my uber rides fall far below anything I spent monthly on my insurance and lease payment ($1300 or so). Helps to work from home and live 5 miles from most places I need to go to or from the public transit.

Honestly, had he kept his insane ideas to himself I might still own that car or it’s newer version. I do miss it, but I just can’t support people like that. Also, 3 years on I don’t miss the car payments…

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[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 57 points 1 year ago (2 children)

That's the risk when your brand is a "status symbol" and the company is closely linked with your personality.

Steve Jobs knew how to do this well. Elon is no Steve Jobs...

[–] lasagna@programming.dev 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Imagine Steve Jobs taking to Twitter calling all doctors pedos for trying to fix cancer with chemotherapy instead of fructose syrup.

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[–] CrypticFawn@lemmy.dbzer0.com 54 points 1 year ago (22 children)

Ngl, I wouldn't be caught dead with a Tesla these days.

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[–] wolfylow@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago (7 children)

Funny but when I see a Tesla, I now judge the owner. Never used to care one way or another but.

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[–] cassetti@kbin.social 45 points 1 year ago (1 children)

My partner needed to buy a new vehicle. A Tesla Model was easily in budget. But they opted not to buy one because they want zero affiliation with Musk or any connotations that they may endorse his behavior by owning one of his products.

[–] BloodForTheBloodGod@lemmy.ca 27 points 1 year ago (6 children)

FWIW, they're also terribly made cars that keep poorly.

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[–] Knightfall@lemmy.ca 43 points 1 year ago

Since the seeing ordeal someone went through here in Canada and his Telsa, I wouldn't own one if given to me.

Water condensation dripping from the AC compressor on top of the batteries is just bad design and lack of foresight.

Transport Canada said that was awful and the reason for his faulty battery/batteries and Teslsa still said, nah you on your own.

Forget that noise.

[–] chuckd@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I love my Tesla, but I don't think my next car will be one because of Musk and what he's done to the brand. Really disappointing that he's put the same people who've coal rolled and iced chargers instead of his loyal, reservation making, early adopting FSD clients like me. I'm watching the expanding market with excitement as other companies are rolling out vehicles with nicer features and comparable pricetags than current Teslas.

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[–] MicroWave@lemmy.world 40 points 1 year ago

Since Musk acquired Twitter, the Tesla CEO has started to voice his political and social views more frequently, as well as share controversial conspiracy theories.

This has resulted in a wave of people changing their minds about Musk, especially people on the left side of the American political spectrum. Many have suggested this has a negative impact on Tesla, which is intricately linked to Musk.

[–] jumpinjesus@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago (7 children)

I was an early tesla fanboy and always wanted one, I finally have my finances in a place where a new car isn't an awful decision and went with the ID4 just so I didn't have to deal with that guy in any way shape or form.

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[–] popemichael@lemmy.sdf.org 35 points 1 year ago (1 children)

His last name is being used as a verb now from what I'm hearing

Its when you are delusionally confidet and try to do something but you mess it up so bad that it would have been better if you did NOTHING!

Friend 1: I'm the best cook ever! I'll make you the best meal!

Friend 1: Burns box mac and cheese

Friend 2: "You really Musked that up!"

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[–] zdanger@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago (4 children)

He's the reason I didn't even entertain the thought of buying a Tesla when I was in the market for an EV. I ended up buying a Kia EV6

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[–] tenitchyfingers@lemmy.world 26 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Isn’t it also the fact that everything he touches explodes and ends up being an unsafe product? I’d rather buy any other brand before buying Tesla, even regardless of his extremely unlikable personality and dumbass choices.

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[–] theodewere@kbin.social 25 points 1 year ago

i wouldn't buy a pack of cigarettes from that wannabe supervillain

[–] whome@discuss.tchncs.de 25 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Maybe Teslas will come with disguise kits, where you can switch the Tesla logo with a different brand. Just like Twitter created the option to hide the Twitter blue checkmark...

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[–] FarceMultiplier@lemmy.ca 22 points 1 year ago (6 children)

I took an Uber for the first time on Friday, which was also my first time in a Tesla. It didn't seem very comfortable. The driver also didn't signal very often.

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