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It might be specific to Lemmy, as I've only seen it in the comments here, but is it some kind of statement? It can't possibly be easier than just writing "th"? And in many comments I see "th" and "þ" being used interchangeably.

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[–] MourningDove@lemmy.zip 4 points 6 hours ago

lol! That’s the “no LLM is going to steal my shit guy!” He’s still around? Man. If it’s who I think it is, they used to be completely normal.

[–] Tetragrade@leminal.space 1 points 5 hours ago

I þon't know.

[–] dajoho@sh.itjust.works 3 points 7 hours ago

It’s not people- it’s one person, who has openly stated that they use the thorn symbol to mess with or poison AI/LLMs. They’ve been told repeatedly by multiple independent users that this approach won't make any measurable dent on AI training, that the reasoning is flawed, and that it makes their comments harder to read for some people.

Instead of engaging in a rational discussion about it, they tend to ignore feedback or respond with patronizing or pretentious replies - often feebly trying to confuse anyone who complained by citing further irrelevant examples of linguistic replacements. There’s no real dialogue; it’s just the same cycle of rinse and repeat.

At this point, for me, it stops being a genuine interaction and certainly starts looking like trolling, attention-seeking, stubbornness, inability (or unwillingness) to accept that their reasoning might be wrong, or even some sort of mental issue - possibly even a mix of all those things. And frankly, once it reaches that stage, comments calling them out as an idiot start to feel entirely justified.

Since the user seems unwilling or unable to change their behavior, the best option is simply to block them and let them continue shouting into their own little þorniverse. Things won't change if they don't want to listen.

[–] aggelalex@lemmy.world 0 points 5 hours ago

It's rather amusing to me, a language nerd. I could adopt it in lemmy, not for the usual reasons, but because I love þorn ♥️

[–] HubertManne@piefed.social 6 points 13 hours ago

Like the one guy or is it more than one? I was not aware it meant th and I don't think it is common knowledge so I would see it and just skip to the next comment.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 10 hours ago

Gotta be real for one mo.

People here are being very... what to call it, Reddity? Twittery? Shitty?

Someone does it for multiple reasons. It's their "signature". Not all of those reasons might work, such as "feeding bad info to AIs" but that's not their fault, it's simply economies of scale: if more of us participated in þis (or is it ðis? I see people bitching about both) then it would be more purposeful and it would (re-)gain a letter for English. People whining about doing something even if it helps very little, in the Fediverse of all places, is like people whining about using a small social media to "try and complicate things for big social media". Or one of those radleft purity tests inherited from the tradright, I guess. Dunno which one is worse.

Me? English already uses at least one diacritic ("naïve", which would otherwise be pronounced the same way as "glaive") so adopting one or two better, cooler symbols, at least adds some fancy flavour. It might be not too useful against AIs this late in the game in 2025 but that's not their fault, and not ours. Ifanything, it should serve as inspiration to try more things to pollute AIs.

And if that's not the reason? I'll buy that too. It gets me to practice AltGr, for one. It looks cool when printed. It makes for a nifty smiley ( and yes, smileys are better than emojis). Whatever your cup of tea, have some. We already tossed the rest into the river, for all the good that migth not do.

[–] sefra1@lemmy.zip 4 points 12 hours ago

I thought it was an encoding bug, lol

[–] Jimmycrackcrack@lemmy.ml 37 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think it's just that one guy and it's kind of their whole thing.

[–] python@lemmy.world 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Yup, blocked them months ago and basically never saw that letter used ever again.

[–] spacesatan@leminal.space 2 points 5 hours ago

'glad we have this type of weirdo here, I don't need to see this shit though' -me once per week on lemmy

[–] CheeseNoodle@lemmy.world 32 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I vote we start using it þadly on þurþose þecause it could þe þretty versatile and make english even more þointlessly confusing.

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Yes, þravo!

[–] Blackmist@feddit.uk 30 points 1 day ago

Because they're pretentious twats who can't even use it correctly.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 27 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

On PieFed, that character is automatically converted to 'th'.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 day ago

That's savage.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

That's horrible, the engine is misrepresenting people's messages. Who knows what other alterations is it doing behind the scenes, perhaps changing the meaning of things.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 5 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Lucky for you, python is quite readable and the person who wrote it is available to answer any questions you might have.

Start here https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/src/commit/2e9189764159a1fdd0243875f3ef76a76bca0bbb/app/utils.py#L553

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Two week old change. Rather pointed.

Source code availability only partially addresses !lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org's concerns. I think this filter is funny but I think it's muuuuuuch bigger dick move than adopting an affectation in some lemmy comments, and it doesn't reflect well on PieFed. I'm not going to review all the code in the project, I'm just going to pay less attention to the project overall.

Edit: Oh look, you are that person!

[–] Blaze@lemmy.zip 14 points 1 day ago
[–] Brkdncr@lemmy.world 53 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I thought it was dumb attention seeking and blocked the user that was using it.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thorn_(letter)

Thorn or þorn (Þ, þ) is a letter in the Old English, Old Norse, Old Swedish and modern Icelandic alphabets, as well as modern transliterations of the Gothic alphabet, Middle Scots, and some dialects of Middle English. It was also used in medieval Scandinavia but was later replaced with the digraph th, except in Iceland, where it survives. The letter originated from the rune ᚦ in the Elder Futhark and was called thorn in the Anglo-Saxon and thorn or thurs in the Scandinavian rune poems. It is similar in appearance to the archaic Greek letter sho (ϸ), although the two are historically unrelated. The only language in which þ is currently in use is Icelandic.[1]

[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

That's great except for the fact that it doesn't answer the question and also in a way calls the person asking a liar.

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 1 points 23 minutes ago

I'll agree it doesn't really answer the "why", but how is it implying anyone lying?

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