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Just seems like everything is "this company did this to their employees" and less about "this novel messaging protocol offers these measured pros and cons." Or similar

And yes, I could post things, but I'm referring to what hits the top, 12h.

Can anyone rec communities with less of a biz and politics and wfh vs in-office vibe?

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[–] L3s@lemmy.world 53 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

Please stop reporting this as "not tech related, rule 2", we welcome the feedback.

Our stance has been, if it's in a gray area of "tech" such as tech business related, and users upvote it: that must be what the majority wants.

We will be discussing this more, as it seems some people want strictly tech related content and none of the gray area content.

[–] nutsack@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (3 children)

I think users of this website tend to upvote whatever sentences they see which have keywords in them that they think are good.

I agree with op here, and I say forget what the upvotes are saying. they're nonsense.

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[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 110 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

But if this community community isn't flooded with tech business articles, where are people going to post insightful comments like "fuck Google" and "switch to Firefox"?

[–] Quicky@lemm.ee 49 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (21 children)

My bugbear is all the Linux circle-jerking. I get that the fediverse has a high nerd-count (I’m one of them), but the “switch to Linux” sentiment is so tedious. Yes, Linux is great for those that have the time or inclination to learn swathes of new terminologies and procedures just to achieve the same level of productivity that the equivalent commercial data-harvesters offer in a more readily-accessible UX, but the vast majority of users simply don’t care.

This old meme couldn’t be less appropriate on Lemmy.

Operating systems

Edit: Not wanting to poke the bear, but the accusatory phrasing in a couple of the responses below (“you obviously haven’t used Linux in 10 years” and “you don’t really understand the motivation behind FOSS”) go some way towards emphasising the point of this comment.

[–] deweydecibel@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Since when do people need to take into account if anyone else cares when posting to social media? They're not content creators serving an audience.

I get it's obnoxious sometimes but people are going to sound off about the things they care about on social media. That's the whole point.

i get that the fediverse has a high nerd-count (I’m one of them), but the “switch to Linux” sentiment is so tedious

I genuinely don't understand why people think this is odd. Think for a second about what the fediverse is and what it represents.

Why are we here? Why are we on the fediverse and not reddit or twitter? They both have more content, more intuitive systems, and more mature (if terrible) UXs. So why are we here?

The fediverse represents the same basic thing as a Linux OS for the average consumer: an escape from corporate controlled, locked down, and increasingly bastardized ecosystems. An open source alternative that, while taking a little more effort, rewards the user with relief from the bullshit they want to escape.

Of course it's popular here. How could it not be?

You'll also find early adopters tend to be more willing to put in the effort to learn new systems, and we're barely out of the early adopter stage for the fediverse.

[–] Quicky@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

Since when do people need to take into account if anyone else cares when posting to social media? They're not content creators serving an audience.

I mean, this whole post is about what content is preferable in this specific community.

[–] mcribbs@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)

IMO it's not the "switch to Linux" sentiment itself that's so tedious, it's that it's just so damn oversaturated. It's like that guy who posted "if buying isn't ownership then piracy isn't stealing" like 20 times in one thread the other day. I 100% agree but OMG we get it, kindly stop saying the same damn thing over and over. It's just annoying that every post even mentioning Microsoft or Google devolves into a sea of privacy complaints and FOSS evangelizing to the point it's difficult to have any real conversations.

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[–] cerement@slrpnk.net 54 points 11 months ago (1 children)

software tech – the whole programming.dev instance

[–] JDubbleu@programming.dev 42 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

We also have impeccable uptime as you'd expect.

[–] c0mbatbag3l@lemmy.world 53 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Not to mention most of the commenters just hate on the technology too, every article about any type of transportation that isn't trains people just shit on it in the comments. "How is this gonna save the planet?" "Why does this need to exist?"

Hating technology should be its own community.

[–] pedz@lemmy.ca 32 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (11 children)

Quite candidly, it's not articles selling the spiel of tech bros that is going to help us. I'm one of those commenters and I also wish "Technology" was about technology instead of trying to sell the latest gadgetbahn or a solar road or self driving cars.

EDIT: It's not technically about "helping us", but more specifically about the kind of spiel those "articles" are trying to push. It may very well be about technology, but it's misrepresented as something that could help us and save us in the future while in reality, it's just marginally interesting, Think about how many articles there has been about bitcoins, NFTs, AI and crap like this, coming from techbros and their simps. That's why you'll see the sort of comments you complain about. It certainly is tech, but it's more like tech they're trying to hype, misrepresent and sell.

I love tech. I work in IT. But I can also smell BS and will not hesitate to point it out.

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 14 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Well said. I like how the communities on Lemmy have a lot of tech and FOSS people who are able to recognize (and call out) a repackaged sales pitch. I understand most mainstream publications have to pay the bills, but so many of the "journalists" are just caught up in the hype cycle.

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[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 22 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Totally agree!

"Here's some incremental progress that is a possibly interesting technological improvement."

" Omg it isn't literally perfect and exactly aligning with my interests. Literal capitalist trash, zero value, no one wants it"

[–] Corgana@startrek.website 9 points 11 months ago

In my experience it's been quite the opposite. The press release will be "here's some shiny new big deal" and the comments in this community will point out that it's not only nothing new, but often actively working against users' interests.

Like Meta totally joining the Fediverse or Apple ""fully"" adopting RCS despite both those companies having a long history of anti-interoperability practices. There's a lot of BS that comes out of silicon valley, and there aren't a lot of good journalists able (or willing) to rightfully understand what's being said, so they repeat the big claims without proper context.

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[–] FireTower@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

I think this is a flaw in the current state of Lemmy. There's so few posts compared to Reddit that random people will find your 3 upvoted post in all. This leads to people outside of the community dominating the discussion.

You can also see this with other communities. Everytime I see the conservative one in All it's a non conservative OP being insulted by other non conservatives, because they assumed OP must be a conservative to post there.

There being an anti tech community won't solve this issue. I think the most accessible solution is moderation.

[–] qx128@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago (3 children)

Check out Ars Technica. I’ve always enjoyed the fact that the are more technical than average news sources. For example, when they report on a software security vulnerability, they’ll actually go into the command line and try it for themselves. Pretty good reporters which more than basic tech knowledge, if you ask me…

https://arstechnica.com/

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[–] Curious_Canid@lemmy.ca 35 points 11 months ago (1 children)

It would be nice if there were separate Tech Industry and Technology News communities.

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[–] eronth@lemmy.world 31 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Honestly, we need tech business news vs technology in general, but technology also probably should be split between hardware and software. Or maybe computer vs the rest.

[–] Rodeo@lemmy.ca 21 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Computer vs the rest.

I'd love to see posts about new materials, manufacturing processes, waste management, engineering techniques, mechanical designs and tests.

But nope, it's just computers computers computers. If you can't do it on your PC at home it doesn't count as tech, apparently.

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[–] jet@hackertalks.com 25 points 11 months ago (4 children)

Https://news.ycombinator.com is the gold standard, there are some Lemmy bots following it as well

[–] Knusper@feddit.de 25 points 11 months ago (5 children)

Wow, it's been a while since I've been there, but my impression was the polar opposite. That it's filled with business folks and tech bros. That their unbalanced voting system unearths controversial takes rather than informative comments. Every now and then, you'll genuinely see a comment from someone with expertise, but that was not worth sacrificing my mental health for.

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[–] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (6 children)

I like hacker news but have had trouble figuring out how to actually like...follow it. There is a shitty Android app. They don't have an RSS feed best I can tell. How does one actually consume it?

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[–] Die4Ever@programming.dev 20 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

On Reddit we had r/hardware which was great for this

Here we have !hardware@lemmy.ml but I haven't checked it out much yet

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[–] rglullis 18 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You are not going to get that at any of the larger communities. We'll need to grow the niche communities instead, more specific to your interests.

Could you please take a look at https://fediverser.network to see if gives you anything interesting?

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago (12 children)

It can definitely happen. This is just the result of a lack of quality or subject control.

It degrades to the lowest common denominator. This was seen across reddit, constantly.

It happened on lemmy in record time due to a lack of default outlets for the low quality content.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 12 points 11 months ago (2 children)

I was on reddit for a very long time. And this is why I started to bemoan when communities would celebrate that they passed some number of subscribers.

/pardon me as I yell at the clouds. Stop now unless you want to read a completely unnecessary rant.

Two of my favorite niche subreddits were absolutely ruined by getting big: mindfulness and foodporn. The former was primarily a discussion about practicing mindfulness, there were even a couple of buddhists who actually deeply studied the tradition that provided very good non-western insight. It was a good place to go get help, albeit occasionally got a spattering of stupid memes, but you could easily get past them. As it grew it turned more and more into just memes, and then was just over-taken by new-age nonsense and pseudointellectual quotes over pictures. Food porn (while never exactly what I wanted) went from often having well-done pictures of good food, to shitty cell-phone shots of oversized hamburgers, half eaten food, and plates of food sitting on counters with all of this shit in the background.

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[–] defluo@sh.itjust.works 18 points 11 months ago (10 children)

Blogs are really the only way now. At least in my life, it and RSS are making a big comeback. So if you know of any good blogs let me know

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[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 14 points 11 months ago (3 children)

The problem is all the s*** we really want to hear about all the companies are keeping close to their breast.

Then, when something actually novel and interesting comes out it ends up being polarizing. We can only consume so much Chat GPT Gemini Bard crap.

We should start a tech community on the federal verse about technologies people are passionate about. Get some people to talk about cool s*** they've done with Wyoming, Piper and whisper. Maybe have some people talk about their local mini installs of LLMS, for how they're getting the most out of stable diffusion. Maybe some people looking at Obsidian or Anytype, maybe some NixOS

There's lots of cool stuff out there to cover there's just not a lot of news about it these days. If it's not AI they're afraid people's eyes will just glaze over.

[–] brb@sh.itjust.works 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You are allowed to say "shit" here

[–] linearchaos@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

Voice dictation. I need the censorship on for some places, but the setting is buried enough that turning it on and off is arduous. Unfortunately that means that gracing the world with my profanity is only for a times where I can be at the keys.

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[–] LWD@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (5 children)
[–] SheeEttin@lemm.ee 14 points 11 months ago

I don't think people should have to put extra filters to get what they signed up for when they subscribed to "technology"

[–] DeathWearsANecktie@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Blocking "Musk" has made Lemmy much more enjoyable for me!

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[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 11 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I can post any technology related outside of tech biz but mostly it's not a popular thing here, many of articles are too technical, hardly any discussion, even worse there are articles that you won't like it. For example, I can post the good thing about EVs today and another day I can post the downside of EVs battery to environment, and I get the heat.

Posting in niche community? Not enough MAU, I'v tried in c/collapse, c/cybersecurity etc, no discussion.

c/technology is just a mirror of r/technology

[–] thynecaptain@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

This is the correct answer. More folks that subscribe here are the ones who interact and upvote the political ones.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Fucking A OP

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