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[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 59 points 9 months ago (3 children)

If only there was something we could do about this😔

[–] xkforce@lemmy.world 25 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

But muh gunz!! What if I need to mow down 32 home intruders in 15 seconds huh librulz? What am I supposed to do when I have an urge to try to decapitate our government hmm? Did you think of that?

gun nut proceeds to "well ackshully thats not an AK47 blah blah blah checkmate"

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 18 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (5 children)

The gun nuts have made it perfectly clear they're not willing to budge on any legislation. It's going to get to the point where their opposition totally adopts the polar opposite viewpoint of just taking them all away.

I'm there already, fuck guns. I've lost all sympathy for their arguments about "home safety" and "keeping the government in check" (fuckin LOL at that one). They should be illegal and anyone caught with one automatically sentenced to 10 years. I think harsh penalties and zero tolerance are our only options since the gun lobbies won't even consider anything reasonable. They backed us into this position and this is going to keep happening until we do something meaningful about it.

[–] Lividpeon@kbin.social 6 points 9 months ago (4 children)

Some people live way out in the woods and need to defend themselves from bears, moose and to hunt for food. Bolt action, shotguns and revolvers should be acceptable. This blanket ban all guns rhetoric from people is incredibly nieve and comes from sheltered city people. Guns are a tool and they have their place. Ones designed for killing people do not belong.

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What other option do we have? Every piece of reasonable legislation gets hamstringed by the gun lobbyists. There's no recourse besides flushing the whole industry down the shitter.

I grew up in the mountains of Colorado actually, want to guess how many bears I've had to shoot? Get some bear spray, a bow and arrow, a pellet gun, a paintball gun that shoots pepper balls, firecrackers, a starter pistol, a big fuckin pointy stick, loud speakers, a fire extinguisher, fucking anything besides a goddamn school destroying ar-15. I'm tired of kids dieing from this bullshit. Fuck guns.

[–] Lividpeon@kbin.social 2 points 9 months ago

Totally agree on ar15s, you don't need anything with that capacity for any reason really. I can see an argument for some conservation/wildlife management (ie: boar over population) but really that should fall to government to handle who has access to those kinds of firearms already.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 0 points 9 months ago

No half measures, a blanket ban is just about the only way to solve anything.

Just start with handguns first and move our way up.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I’m someone who likes guns, since the cowboy guns are pretty cool, but I’m willing to surrender them if or when they get banned. A complete total and harsh ban is the only way to truly solve the shooting incidents.

[–] SheeEttin@lemm.ee 8 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Ideally we'd address the root causes of lack of mental health and socioeconomic inequality.

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

That's about as likely as the government actually going door to door to collect everyone's guns.

[–] MindSkipperBro12@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

We can probably do both, vaccine and cure protocol kinda stuff.

“No half measures, Walt.”

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 months ago

Yep. I own guns and switched from reasonable measures to full repeal of the 2nd. They're only driving reasonable people further to full bans and no one can blame them for that.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml -4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

And then the Supreme Court tells you "no" and that's it.

This country is fucked.

[–] Thteven@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Those motherfuckers need term limits :/

[–] federatingIsTooHard@lemmy.world 1 points 9 months ago

we can just ignore them. they don't have any enforcement arm. in fact, congress has been concentrating so much if its own power in the executive we can probably ignore congress, too. what is congress going to do about it? pass a law?

[–] Kalkaline@leminal.space 4 points 9 months ago (2 children)

Well unfortunately in America 232 years ago the Bill of Rights were ratified and the 2nd amendment to the Constitution was made law which stated that anyone can have as many guns as they want according to the modern Supreme Court.

[–] RedditWanderer@lemmy.world 12 points 9 months ago

Yeah! What world would we live in if you could change something that's called "an amendment".

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 2 points 9 months ago

the 2nd amendment to the Constitution was made law

If it was amended in, it can be amended out.

[–] ttmrichter@lemmy.world 30 points 9 months ago (1 children)
[–] sirico@feddit.uk 19 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

This wouldn't happen in an open carry..hmm "Nevada has no laws prohibiting open carry of firearms in the state. Nevada state law does not require the registration of firearms."...hmmm

[–] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 9 points 9 months ago

My personal favorite take from the 2As is that 'well regulated' used to mean 'well supplied' so we shouldn't put regulations on weapons because we should stick with what the Founding Fathers meant. Then they'll say that we should use the modern day definition of 'arms' because the Founding Fathers were looking into the future and wanted us to keep innovating.

I'd like to think that even the guys who were raping their slaves daily would be a tad upset about school kids being massacred.

[–] Pratai@lemmy.ca 6 points 9 months ago

It’s a crying shame nothing can be done about this.

[–] badbytes@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Thoughts and prayers, at maximum speed Scotty.